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Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It all went to shit the moment 'timeline' became 'feed'.

This. All people want is to be able to see pics of their friends and kids from whatever vacation they're on, preferably in chronological order.

But then you'd just come in for 10 minutes a day and be done. Can't earn money on such healthy engagement.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

#82
A few years ago I heard an interesting description of social behaviour on a radio program interviewing a sociologist.

They compared human social interaction to the way an actor can be on stage or back stage, and would behave very differently in the two situations, even though we wouldn't consider it dishonesty. Likewise, it's completely normal that a food service worker interacting with customers would behave very differently to how they do in the staff break room or outside of work.

In the back stage context, for example, you can try on new ideas and then discard them after discussion, secure in the knowledge it'll soon be forgotten. Or you can speak plainly about topics where opinions differ, knowing how the people you're talking to will feel. Or you can be a bit boring, a bit derivative, a bit cringe. And of course, how public the discussion is doesn't just impact you - it also impacts who'll reply, and with what.

I can well believe people have found there's much more authenticity in group chats than there is on the major social media platforms.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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post #77

Will social media use AI to post content in order to keep attracting advertisers, showing that "stuff" is happening on their platform? Advertisers who should only trust One Metric: the correlation of the actual sales with an online advertisement campaign.

That metric is never important. Brands have always lost money advertising. Spending on ads is seen as burning extra budget to stay ahead of the curve and remain relevant

They are simply digging trenches for survival and domination. That is why I believe brands with profits above average should be banned from spending on ads. They polute the market and decrease competition

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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post #40

It might not be for everyone, but I'm posting more on social media than ever and seeing more engagement than ever... it's on the fediverse where smaller and safer communities are leading to much higher valuable engagement. I'm also finding it a lot more common for people to have multiple profiles / personas... the social one, the work one, the furry one, whatever is how you want to present yourself and to whom, witho…

Seems like the majority of mastodon content is mastodon enthusiasts posting about how good it is to post on mastodon...

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rembrandt-Wolpert/publi...

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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I revived my instagram account that was dormant for 5 years and I'm surprised how little my network posts. With ~100 followed I see about 3-5 posts per day before "I'm all caught up". I see about 10 "stories" per day.

The rest is just a sea of ads and public posts that I absolutely don't care about.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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IMHO this article shows a clear misunderstanding of what social media is. Humans are culturally used to interacting with limited sized communities, probably even evolutionary idk. When social media was new it was still limited sized, even through it was global, due to filter and it not yet having been adapted everywhere. (note: the term "limited sized" is a bit oversimplified, through I think most people will know wh…

Social Media is a word that means less than the sum of its parts. It is not just the word Media modified by being Social; it was invented to describe algorithmic feeds like Facebook and Twitter. Discord is not social media. Discord is a forum, a type of thing that existed before social media. Social Media's organizational principle is the user page, while Forums are organized by community and discussion topic. Reddit…

what you describe is not the definition of social media which I see commonly used, especially in a legal context

technical details like weather it uses threads in the end IMHO doesn't matter for weather is social medi

social media is internet media used is used for socializing

which means that while classical forums are most times not social media but they can be

discord is not a form, it gained forum functionality somewhat recently, but the most common use case people have for discord is to socialize, hangout and chat in small communities. Does't mean it doesn't also get used as a forum, still it's more used for social interactions then anything else.

Reddit on the other hand is in between a classical forum and social media, though increasingly more social media in recent years and saying it's not social media just IMHO isn't right.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting comparison, do you mean this because B&D now come up with things people don't need?

I think they were a brand known for fairly high quality equipment that had a good reputation. They capitalised on their brand by producing increasingly inferior products

This is called "cashing out the goodwill of the brand". A steady decrease in quality of output while optimizing for minimum inputs in seek of alpha.

A.k.a Welching. Gettin' the juice out.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

#90
post #12

I think this is an eternal cycle. Maybe related to what has been called "enshittification", but not the same: Users will flock to a platform, make it their own. The platform will grow. Then the advertisers, professionals, and hucksters will swoop in, do their thing, and slowly overshadow the old "normal" users. Then old users will leave, leaving a wasteland of ads and glossy shiny. I'd like to call it "glossification…

I left when I realized the platform is controlling what I see, is pitting me against my friends and aquaintances to generate negative interactions, and is filled with bots and fake users pushing politics.

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/225933-2017-09-22-faceb...

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