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And LSD
OK I'm really high now. What next?
polynomial quotient rings
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And LSD
And anabolic steroids.
I disagree. Anabolic steroids can be extremely harmful, even to others as it can cause "roid rage." They can also be addictive.
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Unpopular opinion around here, but strong hallucinogenic drugs can have negative externalities.
Anything worse than alcohol?
Permanent psychosis or murdering your friends and family because you hallucinated them into a harmful monster?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murd...
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Somewhat realistic that it could achieve fda approval for ptsd treatment by 2024. although it would probably be like you have to go do it at a clinic, at least at first
As far as I understand, it’s probably a bit further out for psilocybin. Compass Pathways are the furthest along I believe, with Phase 3 reads-outs expected next year for treatment resistant depression. Unless it’s fast-tracked, 2025 seems more likely.
2024 can happen for MDMA, though. MAPS has completed (I believe) Phase 3B for comparing PTSD.
It’s happening, but slowly. I fully expect these wonderful molecules to be widely available in clinical settings within 5 years, including LSD and ibogaine (which seems particularly promising for addiction treatment)
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Anything worse than alcohol?
Permanent psychosis or murdering your friends and family because you hallucinated them into a harmful monster? https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murd...
You’re cherry-picking [0] (using Vice to boot). Not to mention people do that without drugs.
How about the thousands who don’t commit violent crimes as a result of taking these drugs [1]? Sorta like the clothesline paradox [2].
0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking#:~:text=Cherr....
1. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3
2. https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-clothesline-paradox-and-th...
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OK I'm really high now. What next?
polynomial quotient rings
No you got the order backwards. Remember the old saying from college: "Polynomial quotient rings before acid, the rest of your day will be quiet and placid. Acid before polynomial quotient rings, you'll wish that you hadn't done one of those things."
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And anabolic steroids.
I disagree. Anabolic steroids can be extremely harmful, even to others as it can cause "roid rage." They can also be addictive. https://recovery.org/steroid-addiction/
It's extremely rare that anyone gets "roid rage" or addiction. Rage is induced far more often by people not being able to vape/smoke in airports. Any kind of rage associated with steroids is usually caused by too little estrogen, which only really happens when taking anti-estrogen pills, not generally from the steroids themselves, and when this happens can be rapidly fixed by adjusting hormones with hCG, HMG, or estradiol valerate -- none of which are scheduled, hCG is cheap on the gray market, and estradiol is widely available to trans women.
Addiction is so rare that the American Medical Association, FDA, and even the DEA itself opposed scheduling anabolic steroids, because of the lack of evidence that steroid use resulted in dependence[0]. This is why it simply doesn't belong on the controlled substance schedules.
There's a lot of post-hoc justification and propaganda about it now that it's illegal. But the evidence doesn't support this propaganda. It is fairly effective at convincing a non-trivial amount of the population though.
0: https://healthlaw.org/increasing-access-to-testosterone-to-i....