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FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by hoagsobject »

firstplacelast wrote: post #12
numbers_guy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

Exactly. Doing all my life software development, since I was kid. I don't have any other skills. I have been considering becoming a cook, or going into the military tho. But it's hard to do when your personality wired around computers, and you have to change it.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by gumballindie »

hoagsobject wrote: post #19
gumballindie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While being a plumber may not pay much, owning a plumbing company could.

Owning a plumber company does not translate into work on the foot. Probably it will be sitting job

I imagine a high quality plumbing company requires someone inspect the quality of work, discussing with potential clients in person, and other such non desk work. Perhaps even getting one’s own hands “dirty”.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by qwerty456127 »

astrange wrote: post #18
qwerty456127 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally, people should be given options. Teach them how they can possibly control their concentration and mood, how (what) to eat healthy avoiding deficits and excesses which make that hard, remove anxiety-inducing, depressing and distracting factors then give them the meds to try and let them decide what do they feel like sticking to. Sadly, most of the people don't get any of these things: they are not really taugh…

Vyvanse is so safe there's no need to give people "options" instead of it. Especially since non-medical "options" barely work on people with ADHD unless they spend almost all their effort 24/7 on coping.

I once secured a box of Ritalin. It does wonders to me (sadly it was never possible for me to receive legally) but I feel the way I don't quite like once it wears off in some hours. Is Vyvanse better? At the same time as I slowly work on the other options I mentioned I get the sense of meaning, improvement, progress in gaining what will stay with me wherever I go. Practicing and progressing in these feel like the very sense my job makes, otherwise it would feel like "work another month, pay the bills, grow the savings a bit and gain nothing real". So I stick to the options and take the meds sporadically. And I don't quite like the idea of putting ever-increasing stress and suboptimal working and living conditions on people and sort of telling them "just take your meds and work".

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

#24

Post by gumballindie »

hoagsobject wrote: post #21
firstplacelast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

Exactly. Doing all my life software development, since I was kid. I don't have any other skills. I have been considering becoming a cook, or going into the military tho. But it's hard to do when your personality wired around computers, and you have to change it.

Same issue, except the cook part. The only viable option is building a product in a niche not yet bastardised by corporate. There are some out there just need to dig hard.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by swader999 »

astrange wrote: post #18
qwerty456127 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally, people should be given options. Teach them how they can possibly control their concentration and mood, how (what) to eat healthy avoiding deficits and excesses which make that hard, remove anxiety-inducing, depressing and distracting factors then give them the meds to try and let them decide what do they feel like sticking to. Sadly, most of the people don't get any of these things: they are not really taugh…

Vyvanse is so safe there's no need to give people "options" instead of it. Especially since non-medical "options" barely work on people with ADHD unless they spend almost all their effort 24/7 on coping.

I think Ritalin is safest. Vyvanse can have some fairly serious mental side effects: mania, bi polar tendencies: New or worse behavior and thought problems New or worse bipolar illness New or worse psychotic symptoms, such as: Seeing things or hearing voices that are not real Believing things that are not true Being suspicious New or worse manic symptoms. Depression, suicidal thoughts.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by firstplacelast »

hoagsobject wrote: post #19
gumballindie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While being a plumber may not pay much, owning a plumbing company could.

Owning a plumber company does not translate into work on the foot. Probably it will be sitting job

Yep.

Spent a summer working in a blue collar fashion for a small company. It was fun-ish, but the owner was at a desk all day.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by firstplacelast »

astrange wrote: post #16
firstplacelast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

You could get a standing desk.

Have one. Doesn’t solve the problem. I need to move and context switch (ideally).

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by [deleted] »

firstplacelast wrote: post #12
numbers_guy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

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Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

#29

Post by firstplacelast »

hoagsobject wrote: post #21
firstplacelast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

Exactly. Doing all my life software development, since I was kid. I don't have any other skills. I have been considering becoming a cook, or going into the military tho. But it's hard to do when your personality wired around computers, and you have to change it.

I feel it. I’ve been looking at the FBI. It would still be 80% desk work, but better than 100%.

Wage is still a step back and I’m nearing the age cut-off, so would have to jump on it pretty soon.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

#30

Post by irdc »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #23
astrange wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vyvanse is so safe there's no need to give people "options" instead of it. Especially since non-medical "options" barely work on people with ADHD unless they spend almost all their effort 24/7 on coping.

I once secured a box of Ritalin. It does wonders to me (sadly it was never possible for me to receive legally) but I feel the way I don't quite like once it wears off in some hours. Is Vyvanse better? At the same time as I slowly work on the other options I mentioned I get the sense of meaning, improvement, progress in gaining what will stay with me wherever I go. Practicing and progressing in these feel like the ver…

Amphetamines like Vyvanse are associated less with the so-called "rebound effect", which sounds like what you're experiencing.
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