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FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by irdc »

CommitSyn wrote: post #5
toomuchtodo wrote: post #2

> FDA has approved several first generics of Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine dimesylate) capsules and chewable tablets for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in patients six years and older and moderate to severe binge-eating disorder (BED) in adults. See Vyvanse’s prescribing information for details on dosing.

Giving an addictive stimulant to food addicts That'll work greeeeat. Then again if I remember correctly, Vyvanse isn't something you can get a continual high from like traditional amphetamines. : I may be completely mis-renembering that.

The danger of pharmaceutical-grade amphetamines at therapeutic doses is vastly overstated. It’s not like it’s alcohol (carcinogenic) or sugar.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by firstplacelast »

numbers_guy wrote: post #10
gumballindie wrote: post #3

[flagged]

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year?

Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales.

Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there.

I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by qwerty456127 »

tux3 wrote: post #8
CommitSyn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving an addictive stimulant to food addicts That'll work greeeeat. Then again if I remember correctly, Vyvanse isn't something you can get a continual high from like traditional amphetamines. : I may be completely mis-renembering that.

You'll be happy to know it does work great. Contrary to popular belief, giving stimulants significantly reduces the risks of addiction, alcoholism, substance abuse, etc. You have to treat people, otherwise they try to get their dopamine sonewhere else. Whether that's binge eating, or worse.

Ideally, people should be given options. Teach them how they can possibly control their concentration and mood, how (what) to eat healthy avoiding deficits and excesses which make that hard, remove anxiety-inducing, depressing and distracting factors then give them the meds to try and let them decide what do they feel like sticking to. Sadly, most of the people don't get any of these things: they are not really taught anything, their works and lives are crazy and unsatisfying and the ADHD meds are either illegal or very hard to get prescribed (especially if you are an adult) outside of the USA.

Your point is very interesting though. It sounds pretty obvious but I never thought about this this way. I am going to look some proofs up and steal this for future arguments.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by gumballindie »

numbers_guy wrote: post #10
gumballindie wrote: post #3

[flagged]

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

I mean you can absolutely work behind a desk in certain setups where you dont have that many distractions. Also tech jobs are becoming increasingly less desirable and i also encourage people to consider alternatives.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by gumballindie »

firstplacelast wrote: post #12
numbers_guy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

While being a plumber may not pay much, owning a plumbing company could.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by astrange »

firstplacelast wrote: post #12
numbers_guy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those working environments already exist, but maybe you are not interested in them. People with ADHD are advised to do jobs that require one to be on their feet. Sitting behind a desk is unfortunately one of the worst things you can do if you cannot focus easily.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

You could get a standing desk.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by petesergeant »

tux3 wrote: post #8
CommitSyn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving an addictive stimulant to food addicts That'll work greeeeat. Then again if I remember correctly, Vyvanse isn't something you can get a continual high from like traditional amphetamines. : I may be completely mis-renembering that.

You'll be happy to know it does work great. Contrary to popular belief, giving stimulants significantly reduces the risks of addiction, alcoholism, substance abuse, etc. You have to treat people, otherwise they try to get their dopamine sonewhere else. Whether that's binge eating, or worse.

Don’t people acclimatise to them? Biggest reason I don’t take Vyanse is because I’m worried it’ll stop working (like modafinil did) but leave me addicted to it

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by astrange »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #13
tux3 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be happy to know it does work great. Contrary to popular belief, giving stimulants significantly reduces the risks of addiction, alcoholism, substance abuse, etc. You have to treat people, otherwise they try to get their dopamine sonewhere else. Whether that's binge eating, or worse.

Ideally, people should be given options. Teach them how they can possibly control their concentration and mood, how (what) to eat healthy avoiding deficits and excesses which make that hard, remove anxiety-inducing, depressing and distracting factors then give them the meds to try and let them decide what do they feel like sticking to. Sadly, most of the people don't get any of these things: they are not really taugh…

Vyvanse is so safe there's no need to give people "options" instead of it. Especially since non-medical "options" barely work on people with ADHD unless they spend almost all their effort 24/7 on coping.

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by hoagsobject »

gumballindie wrote: post #15
firstplacelast wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier said than done. Outside of sales, what job on your feet pays 200k+/year? Hate sitting at a desk, been diagnosed, and not into sales. Not trying to be combative, would love suggestions. I partly want to go bar-tend or be a plumber, but the wage isn’t there. I should have gone into medicine, but it’s too late for that at this stage.

While being a plumber may not pay much, owning a plumbing company could.

Owning a plumber company does not translate into work on the foot. Probably it will be sitting job

Re: FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse

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Post by astrange »

petesergeant wrote: post #17
tux3 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be happy to know it does work great. Contrary to popular belief, giving stimulants significantly reduces the risks of addiction, alcoholism, substance abuse, etc. You have to treat people, otherwise they try to get their dopamine sonewhere else. Whether that's binge eating, or worse.

Don’t people acclimatise to them? Biggest reason I don’t take Vyanse is because I’m worried it’ll stop working (like modafinil did) but leave me addicted to it

Modafinil is not known to develop tolerance. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01650...)

Vyvanse does, but it's not a problem, just take a magnesium supplement if it happens.

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