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I came across a decent journalism by "The Swaddle" recently, they discuss how upper caste social capital translates to merit in multiple arenas of life in India. They looked into IITs and made the following piece. https://theswaddle.com/the-deserving-and-the-damned/

This also sheds some light into state of startups and people behind it, as more than 60% Indian unicorns has at-least one of their founder from an IIT. https://restofworld.org/2023/iit-graduates-dominate-tech/

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I’m the descendant of Indian immigrants, but is someone who grew up in North America, speaks English as my first language, and is very westernized—I wouldn’t even consider myself Indian to any respect, except for my heritage. I’ve never experienced caste discrimination (through I think I come from a high caste). But, I recognize that my experience is likely different, and probably slanted by my caste status in compar…

I'd reply to you but my caste only talks to DisplayPort, USB-C, or higher. HDMI cable, pfft...

It's a joke, people, based on our friend's username.

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The caste system in India is layered like onions. The author says he was born as OBC (Other Backward Classes), but that's not the lowest in the overall scheme. SC (Scheduled Castes) are considered lower in the hierarchy. ST (Scheduled Tribes) are considered even lower (there are variations across states and regions, so please take this with a pinch of salt). While the atrocities and punishments by "upper" caste peopl…

> While the atrocities and punishments by "upper" caste people on "lower" caste people continue, even OBCs oppress SCs and STs quite badly [...]. This is the step 1. in ensuring any oppressive system continues to be supported by a majority / critical mass of people, who are themselves subject to oppression: make sure there's someone even lower than you, on whom you can unleash your frustration.

Reminds me of ragging in Indian colleges. There is no particular generation thinks that they should put a full stop to this. Their insane justification is “we bore it, now it’s our turn to do it”. Society is just f*^ed up.

Same with caste system.

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No one wants to talk about the giant elephant in the room: reservation system vs. competence. Go to any govt office: the chief of some division is incompetent, some low-level clerk does the heavy lifting. Of course, this low-level clerk happens to be from non-reserved category, as both recruitment and promotions in the government are driven by reservations. Why people (both reserved and non-reserved) send their kids…

IITs? I have been hearing talks of forcing it on ISRO and private companies.

Hopefully that won't happen.

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I've heard people mention this, but as someone born in Karachi who moved to US as a toddler, I can confidently say I've only ever seen Muslim caste systems mentioned on places like Reddit and HN discussions about caste. It's never come up in visits to Pakistan or when hanging out with Pakistani friends in CA, TX, NJ, NY, or WA. That's not to say this interfaith caste constructs don't exist, but I've never heard an in…

This is ground reality in India today. https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/reaching-out-to-pasma... https://frontline.thehindu.com/books/caste-amp-muslims/artic... https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/a-picture-of-islam-th... Despite its name, the newspaper I have linked to has long been a left and liberal leaning one and is a bullwark against the current right-wing government and temperament spreading through t…

Is this something more prevalent in India than Pakistan? It makes sense that there'd be more cultural crossovers in India given the demographics.

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How is it Islamic?

Equality Labs was initially setup by a Bangladeshi Muslim to fight "Islamophobia" and to target Hindus in general. Thenmozi joined it much later and became "co-founder". They shared stage with known wanted Khalistani terrorists and such. The "Islamists" tag made it harder for this organization to get any traction with politicians and corporate world. Everyone would look at them suspiciously so they quietly dropped al…

This video provides some evidence - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-1G__iOqmQ

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First names are defined more by fashion than anything else.

Perhaps, but definitely people from different communities and castes are influenced by different fashion trends.

In practice, there is near zero correlation between first names and caste.

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Identical phenomenon exists in US where groups with well above average incomes are considered officially "disadvantaged groups" for purposes of eg SBA loans.

I’m willing to believe it, but you’re making a claim which should be trivial to back up with sources, so please do (or I’ll have to assume you can’t)

The most obvious one is that Asian American are considered “disadvantaged” group for getting SBA loans which makes zero sense (highest earning group in US). They also qualify for minority-owned business status that opens up gov contracting opportunities.

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What happens if you are from a lower caste but wear the white thread to misdirect? Or you lie about being / not being vegetarian by choice / at birth?

What happens if you lie on your resume? what if you practice speaking with a more prestigious accent than you grew up with? What if you carefully study your friends who went to private schools and summered in the Hamptons to learn how to imitate their ineffable shibboleth mannerisms? The answer is yes, you can do these things, and it will confer exactly the benefits you imagine. And the consequences for getting "caug…

That's a bit oranges and apples though. If I lie on my resume I can be lawfully fired. If I try to pass myself as upper class nobody can do anything.
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