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Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by mandmandam »

highwaylights wrote: post #22

I’ve been thinking something similar to this as I lost one of the closest people in my life a few weeks ago. People have been living and dying on this rock for thousands of generations and no-one alive today remembers any of them. Even the most immensely successful people to have lived just a short while ago - all of the John Rockefellers and the Andrew Carnegies of the world - are remembered only insofar as their na…

I'm glad someone here is grokking the message. Sorry for your loss.

There's a lot of people here dismissing [caricatures of] the idea... But it's a vital truth. It has been expressed for thousands of years, by the world's greatest thinkers.

And fwiw, Rockefeller and Carnegie can suck rocks. A little philanthropy doesn't outweigh decades of robber barony.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by thunderbong »

mlboss wrote: post #37
osmarks wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Believing in reincarnation does not make it true.

Not believing in it does not make it false. We are all made of earth and after death we go back in earth and then born again. So in a sense reincarnation happens but without the memory.

Russell's teapot

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by baal80spam »

nkjnlknlk wrote: post #32
highwaylights wrote: post #22

I’ve been thinking something similar to this as I lost one of the closest people in my life a few weeks ago. People have been living and dying on this rock for thousands of generations and no-one alive today remembers any of them. Even the most immensely successful people to have lived just a short while ago - all of the John Rockefellers and the Andrew Carnegies of the world - are remembered only insofar as their na…

Money does buy time? With money you don't have to sell your labour at exploitative rates.

> Money does buy time? With money you don't have to sell your labour at exploitative rates.

I am inclined to agree - with money you can afford healthier food which in theory should make your life longer

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by baal80spam »

bovermyer wrote: post #41

Nothing we do matters, cosmically speaking. However, each of us is at the center of our own universe, and from that context, a variety of things are important or unimportant. From the context of self, we derive importance. That universe exists only as long as the self exists. In that context, what you deem important is important. What you deem unimportant is unimportant. And those states shift over time. I'm not well…

> Nothing we do matters, cosmically speaking.

This is true of course, however I can't imagine living thinking that and not getting depressed/insane.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by ROTMetro »

ericmcer wrote: post #23

I was unemployed for a good stretch last summer/fall and would go hiking, backpacking or camping in the Sierra Nevadas almost every week. After the third trip in a month, walking among granite cliffs and alpine lakes I realized that I wasn't feeling much awe. To have those profound breathtaking moments in nature you need the contrast of months in civilization sitting on a computer. Same thing with special moments wit…

I am so glad Teddy Roosevelt spent so much time in civilization on computers or we might not have had a National Park system.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by steego »

askafriend wrote: post #11

Meh. This guy just sounds depressed. Sure there's truth in some of what he's saying, but I think the fact that we and all of our stuff will be gone is great. I'm here to enjoy the ride! I'm gonna go fast in my fancy car - zoom zoom see ya later.

So what if we he was depressed?

Maybe he is depressed, or in the process of trying to get over depression. At some point, most people have this epiphany. His may be now. If so, I'm happy for him.

There's a part of me that wouldn't understand the gravity of this post because I never had an unhealthy obsession with stuff in the first place. I grew up with stuff and never had to go without. I enjoy hitting the sport button in my car and going zoom zoom.

Sometimes that obsession really messes people up and they truly suffer from it. They're not always as happy-go-lucky as you or I. Maybe it's harder for them to just get by.

I know enough people who didn't grow up with running water and went hungry as a kid to know that some people's attachment to stuff and financial security is a lot more profound and rooted in something much deeper. It's a lot harder for them to just enjoy the ride because a lot of that ride has been a real struggle.

I don't know this person's story, but I hope he finds peace and balance.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by osmarks »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #39
osmarks wrote: post #36

I was expecting this to be about AI timelines or something. This is not very novel or interesting to me. Besides, it's not as if there's no plausible way to extend lifespans enough that I could live until 2123.

There is literally no plausible way to extend your lifespan another 100 years.

I am expecting lots of biotech progress during my existing likely natural lifespan.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by mandmandam »

antonvs wrote: post #34
mandmandam wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh I'm not seeing anything in the delivery here to quality it for being sneered at, or compared to Musk. Perhaps it's easier for some to mock a reminder like this, than to reflect on it. This is one of those truths that's worth remembering, and deeper than it might seem. "All conditioned things are impermanent — when one sees this with wisdom, one turns away from suffering." - Some 14yo I guess, idk

I mean, Buddha was a spoiled princelet who had an overreaction to discovering that not everyone shared his privilege. In many ways he’s the archetype of I’m 14 and this is deep.

I've heard enlightenment called many things, but "an overreaction" is a new one.

> In many ways he’s the archetype of I’m 14 and this is deep.

He was 29 when he set off on his quest, and in his mid 30s when he attained enlightenment.

Enlightenment, btw, is just about the polar opposite of fake or performatory 'depth'.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by ROTMetro »

baal80spam wrote: post #53
nkjnlknlk wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Money does buy time? With money you don't have to sell your labour at exploitative rates.

> Money does buy time? With money you don't have to sell your labour at exploitative rates. I am inclined to agree - with money you can afford healthier food which in theory should make your life longer

Organic oatmeal costs $1 a pound. Add dirt cheap in bulk organic raisins, flax, walnuts, almonds, cinnamon, banana's and you have 1 meal, 2 of your fruit/veggie servings, tons of oils for like $1. Takes 3.5 minutes to make.

Fishing/hunting is the cost of a license. You can fill your freezer in 1 trip.

I eat healthy organic/gluten free for $25 a week and am overweight not starving.

Re: We will all be dead soon

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Post by [deleted] »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #39
osmarks wrote: post #36

I was expecting this to be about AI timelines or something. This is not very novel or interesting to me. Besides, it's not as if there's no plausible way to extend lifespans enough that I could live until 2123.

There is literally no plausible way to extend your lifespan another 100 years.

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