The global trading system is starting to rearrange itself

Post by throwawaymaths » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 7:38 PM UTC

whats_a_quasar wrote: post #92

8note wrote: post #57

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If china declared Puerto Rico to be it's ally and started building military bases there without US permission, the US would do more than threaten to invade Puerto Rico, it'd do it immediately

Dude, this is blatant whataboutism. Puerto Rico is in no way equivalent to Taiwan, and I suspect you know that. Taiwan is a sovereign, independent, democratic nation. The Chinese Communist Party has never had political control over Taiwan. It just claims the right to overrule the right to self-determination of 23 million people because it feels like it. The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is an unincorporated U.S. territ…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 8:23 PM UTC

jacooper wrote: post #120

edgyquant wrote: post #110

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This isn’t true, they always preferred them. They did a number of misguided things in the name of containing communism but all of that was 1. over fifty years ago or more at this point 2. Unpopular with the public so it doesn’t seem like a good faith stance to pretend that’s current Us doctrine. It’s an ignorant whataboutism used by defenders of brutal regimes.

As if 2. Changes anything. Heck they even did a coup not too long ago because a country rich with lithium elected a socialist government.

Post by nvm0n2 » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 8:33 PM UTC

dirtyid wrote: post #103

nvm0n2 wrote: post #82

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Wouldn't that be extremely bad, given that 2021 was a year with many lockdowns and COVID related disruption especially in China? Surely 2023 should have experienced a rebound?

No it would be stupid good. PRC export value went from 2.5T in 2019 to 3.4T in 2021, to 3.6T in 2022. It increased more during 3-4 years of covid than previous 10 years combined (1.4T in 2009). Primarily because 0covid left most of PRC undisrupted, most of the time, which setup PRC to export to most of world, especially global south. Currently everyone's exports down due to global slow down, but PRC exports down from…

Post by projectazorian » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 11:23 PM UTC

nonethewiser wrote: post #105

projectazorian wrote: post #90

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> This was a reason I unsubscribed from the economist. A lot of times it makes broad claims and then leaves out the details to support said claim. Almost like it expects the reader to treat the economist like a first hand source and therefore no citation needed. This is kind of the point of The Economist; its intended audience is busy executives who are on board with its ideological bias and don’t care much about foo…

Is that really all the Economist aspires to be?

Post by nstart » Thu, Aug 31, 2023, 1:13 AM UTC

projectazorian wrote: post #90

nstart wrote: post #60

From the article, wrt how the economist claims that decoupling is phoney because the underlying export by china in the process remains the same: > Startlingly, however, The Economist provides no actual data to support this claim. Ha! This was a reason I unsubscribed from the economist. A lot of times it makes broad claims and then leaves out the details to support said claim. Almost like it expects the reader to trea…

> This was a reason I unsubscribed from the economist. A lot of times it makes broad claims and then leaves out the details to support said claim. Almost like it expects the reader to treat the economist like a first hand source and therefore no citation needed. This is kind of the point of The Economist; its intended audience is busy executives who are on board with its ideological bias and don’t care much about foo…