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Would it be possible for the government to 'phase out' last names and instead rely on other forms of identification? Instead of putting in your name in an application form, you just list an id number and your address. Then when you show up, you only mention your first and middle name.

Re: My Caste

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Would it be possible for the government to 'phase out' last names and instead rely on other forms of identification? Instead of putting in your name in an application form, you just list an id number and your address. Then when you show up, you only mention your first and middle name.

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> An uninitiated might be forgiven for not realizing that caste-based discrimination is rampant in India

Don’t mind all the people from India, outside of India, that will swear up and down that such thing doesn’t exist

I feel like there is a group of people taking advantage of western sensitivities against “being insensitive”, and reappropriating it when convenient to deflect

I’m glad Seattle passed a law against caste discrimination, just this year, since there are so many people from India in the tech industry there it was eventually able to be noticed, but that ends right at Seattle’s city limits and more awareness and uniform regulation is needed

We get a skewed perspective of India’s identity politics because of a lack of representation from different groups in India

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Would it be possible for the government to 'phase out' last names and instead rely on other forms of identification? Instead of putting in your name in an application form, you just list an id number and your address. Then when you show up, you only mention your first and middle name.

I just posted this on a probably-dead thread about caste discrimination, but the short of it is the folks who wish to discriminate by caste have a variety of ways to determine what your caste is. From the Vice article below:

Indians will not ask outright what caste you are, as it’s seen as overly discriminatory, but they use more subtle methods to identify your place in the caste structure.

“Sometimes they ask, ‘Are you vegetarian?’ If you say yes, they ask are you vegetarian by birth or by choice, before getting into which village you come from, because sometimes the village gives up your caste,” Sam said.

Another method described to VICE News is the pat on the back to see if the person is wearing a Juneau, a sacred white thread typically worn by the upper castes in India.

Higher-caste Indians will also search social media accounts to ascertain a job candidate’s religious views or diet.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3azjp5/silicon-valley-has-a-...

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Would it be possible for the government to 'phase out' last names and instead rely on other forms of identification? Instead of putting in your name in an application form, you just list an id number and your address. Then when you show up, you only mention your first and middle name.

I'd imagine you can get some amount of information from a first name as well.

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> I was, however, not ready to publicly declare it until I received tenure as it seemed too risky

Risk of what ? Seems a bit exaggerating.

> There are at most five tenure-track faculty who belong to OBC category among all the faculty members in North America's "top" 50 CS departments

> What evidence do I have to support my claim?

And then continues to show castes of faculty at IIT.

Am I missing something here ?

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I had a student in my class who wrote about being from a "low caste" background. So when a friend hosted a woman from India on her podcast who said there was so caste discrimination in India I spoke up about this. The podcast guest said that the fact that anyone in the west mentioned caste discrimination, even within western tech companies, was an act of racism against Indian culture and reflected colonial judgements. My friend, who is very, very woke, agreed. I was so annoyed. Thank you for bringing this up. Such discrimination has no place!

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> An uninitiated might be forgiven for not realizing that caste-based discrimination is rampant in India Don’t mind all the people from India, outside of India, that will swear up and down that such thing doesn’t exist I feel like there is a group of people taking advantage of western sensitivities against “being insensitive”, and reappropriating it when convenient to deflect I’m glad Seattle passed a law against cas…

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Would it be possible for the government to 'phase out' last names and instead rely on other forms of identification? Instead of putting in your name in an application form, you just list an id number and your address. Then when you show up, you only mention your first and middle name.

I'd imagine you can get some amount of information from a first name as well.

No just religion.
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