Sounds like that movie from the 1980's - "COCCOON"
Discovery of spherules of likely extrasolar composition in the Pacific Ocean [pdf]
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To me what’s cool about this is he came up with this theory about IM1, went out and figured out how to test his theory, and found exactly what he was expecting to find on the ocean floor. This is how you do science, kids.
Where's the control? If you go elsewhere in the Indian Ocean, are you likely to find a similar pattern? From my reading, they went to one area, did two tracks outside that area, and compared the results. Is that enough statistics? Are there runs inside of the area which are similar to runs outside the area? If you did the same search pattern elsewhere, what are the odds of finding something similar? Even if this were…
Im totally unqualified to judge the science going on in this paper, but a quick summary of the control: "The spherules, significantly concentrated along the expected meteor path, were retrieved from seafloor depths ranging between..." "with control areas north and south of that path."
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#173Oh it's Avi Loeb, head of the astronomy department at Harvard. Here's a youtube about what his deal is, by an astronomer who studied astronomy through postdoc level and then left for industry and doing some youtubes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY985qzn7oI
Yea let’s delegate all responsibility to an expert who can think for us instead of forming our own opinion from observation.
Are you also a professional Astronomer that can accurately vet his claims and research?
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Some things to keep in mind about these UFO hearings: 1. The reports are all second- and third- hand. To my knowledge, no DoD employee has testified to anybody in Congress that they personally witnessed extraterrestrial technology or "biologics". 2. The exception here is a "Jonathan Grey", who hasn't testified before Congress, or, for that matter, been identified; he's one of David Grusch's sources, under a pseudonym…
There are interesting stories about a device allowing the user - the Vatican - to peer back through time. Called the Chronovisor. Curious times.
> a device allowing the user - the Vatican - to peer back through time
In fact they have many such devices, although the fidelity and reliability of the information they provide leaves something to be desired. They call these devices "books".
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Whether or not other formations of molecules, Carbon(organic-based), Silicon, or otherwise similar elements of modest combinational reactive potential (Germanium?), outside of our planetary gravity well, have managed to arrange themselves -- despite increasing entropy, yet due to gravity itself -- in a manner of complexity large enough (in magnitudes) that, as an emergent property of its own existence, has given rise…
Are you suggesting that there aren't lots of astrophysicists (and, ffs, astrobiologists) studying this already? SETI is a thing!
For context, Avi Loeb loudly publicly berated a leader of SETI for not being willing to consider the existence of aliens, evidently unaware of who she even was and what sort of work she was involved with: https://youtu.be/aY985qzn7oI?t=1872
Avi Loeb is the malicious crank who uses theatrical grandstanding to make himself seem like a victim, alienating people who should be his natural allies if he were calm and sincere.
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What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
> What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? Not an astrophysicist but several friends are. The consensus seems to be that he was a good scientist at one point but has turned into a sensationalist attention monger. > He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field? He's been an author on over 800 scientific papers: that includes his work, work he's been a significant collaborator…
Authorship can be weird.
A physicist on a big LHC project will be the author on over 1000 papers after a decade or so (they average around 100 papers a year). In all likelihood they haven't read the vast majority of them, and have contributed directly to around 1% of them.
High energy physicists got sick of bickering over who was on the list and added everyone who had contributed to the experiment infrastructure. There are pros and cons: it's nice to be on all the papers but it's confusing to figure out who did what.
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#177Meta but what is this paper format? Its not letter, or any A format, so what is it? And more importantly, why was it used?
It's out of this world, one might say.
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#178For context, this is a paper by Avi Loeb [1,2], the "Oumuamua is an interstellar spaceship" researcher. In this paper, Avi explores a possible interstellar origin meteorite. He used data from US air defence senors that had tracked a highly unusual atmospheric entry nearly a decade ago. This object was theorized as a possible extrasolar trajectory meteorite when it had entered the earth's atmosphere. [3,4] Avi recentl…
From this very paper: > Another possibility is that this unfamiliar abundance pattern may reflect an extraterrestrial technological origin. Gotta love unsubstantiated paradigm-destroying claims thrown in casually at the tail end of papers...
You don't have to substantiate possibilities. My takeaway was that the meteorite was asserted to be extrasolar, might be the result of some cosmic explosion, might be something else.
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#179Avi Loeb is an interesting scientist. I read a longer article about him that gave some more background about his work [1]. While he is famous for going on podcasts and making wild claims about objects being signs of alien intelligence, the actual hard science that he's doing is interesting. E.g, this expedition he managed to get funding to recover these extrasolar particles. The clickbaity pop media says that this is…
What is Loeb's reputation among astrophysicists? He's written "over 800 scientific papers". Is that... a good thing in his field?
What's arguably more important is his h-index[0], which is 117 or so.
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First you hit Sy Hersh with the Vatican stuff, now the UFO people... Who's the Papal Security Agency cutout here?
It's true! I actually am Catholic!
pic I took at the last HN Busybodies Secret Cabal meetup https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/storage/image/20230506-sw...
