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Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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I'm loving M$ having to admit they're intentionally abusing their users by disrespecting their preferences even when it would cost them nothing to do so.

When will Apple admit?

apple have different approach: just refuses to work (interoperability) with others, that's it. Protocol unimplemented ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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It's pretty old thing. I know I have used it before a few hundred times. Anyway, do better. That comment isn't HN worthy.

> I know I have used it before a few hundred times

well, perhaps cliche is your thing - it is not mine.

"M$" is not worthy anywhere.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Oh, they do. On my iPhone, I've: -changed the 'default browser' -'uninstalled' Safari Yet, whenever I want to search for a highlighted word, it opens Safari. This is such an absurd situation where I am browsing a site and want to do a search for something I just read and, instead of just opening a new tab or replacing the active tab with a web search, it opens a different browser app I do not want to use. This is jus…

Edit: I was looking at something else, Search on Web does in fact always open in Safari. I've filed a bug report for this just now. --- This is not true, and I've got receipts. Just downloaded Firefox and set it as the default browser, then used the Lookup option on the word "Lettuce." First section is dictionary, second section is "Siri Suggested Websites." These entries have Firefox logo and open Firefox when click…

Highlight a word or phrase in Firefox, in the popup there's a "Search" option. It will always search in Safari. Firefox had to add their own "Search in Firefox" option, that appears at the end of the popup (and sometimes not at all).

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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> When taken though that lens No thanks, I'll take properly managed freedom within my OS. > if we hadn't turned everything into a fucking web-app Could you elaborate?

>> if we hadn't turned everything into a fucking web-app > Could you elaborate? I run a web browser with JS turned off and the web is mostly unusable for me, even things that should be plain documents like news reports try to choke down a dozen or so megabytes of obfuscated garbage that it insists must run on my CPU doing goodness knows what to render a document in common markdown. So, despite being "free" you just r…

What makes you think Apple wouldn't consider HTML or CSS to be "source code" as well, if they see browser dominance as an advantage?

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

Oh, they do. On my iPhone, I've: -changed the 'default browser' -'uninstalled' Safari Yet, whenever I want to search for a highlighted word, it opens Safari. This is such an absurd situation where I am browsing a site and want to do a search for something I just read and, instead of just opening a new tab or replacing the active tab with a web search, it opens a different browser app I do not want to use. This is jus…

I can't duplicate this. Can you tell me what your default browser is and how you are 'searching for a highlighted word'

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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And yet the experience of Safari on iOS is overall pretty good. I think I would not hate the Edge experience quite so much if it did not shove MSN content in my face, display a garish bing search page, and aghressively promote their browser. Also it does not help that I have 25 years of experience avoiding MS browsers for various other reasons. I’m not saying it’s great that Apple does this, but I do think Microsoft…

So you're saying, MS' tactics of forcing Edge would actually be perfectly fine if just the browser was nicer?

Only in part - and it would certainly not be “just fine”. Edge is pretty nice nowadays. It’s the tactics to promote it as the default - now and in the past - that have drawn so much scrutiny. And IE did used to be objectively inferior to the competition.

I’m saying the people at MS promoting this in this particular way are, well, dumb.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Wonder how much this regulation cost to draft, pass, and implement? Several million dollars? Any EU tax payers care to justify this insanity? I mean does any normal person even care about this? Eg, not people on HN with Macbook Pros – your average Windows user. At the end of the day Windows does loads of stuff I don't like. That's why I don't use Windows anymore. Like with most things the EU regulates this just isn't…

You use a word like 'insanity' then plead with people for sensible debate. If you think different perspectives are so good, why do you immediately call the opposing view insane?

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Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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post #173

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>> if we hadn't turned everything into a fucking web-app > Could you elaborate? I run a web browser with JS turned off and the web is mostly unusable for me, even things that should be plain documents like news reports try to choke down a dozen or so megabytes of obfuscated garbage that it insists must run on my CPU doing goodness knows what to render a document in common markdown. So, despite being "free" you just r…

What makes you think Apple wouldn't consider HTML or CSS to be "source code" as well, if they see browser dominance as an advantage?

Apple had a pretty clear definition of interpreted code which boiled down to: "Does your interpreted download allow the user to write infinite loops or recursion?"
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