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Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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>Several million dollars? Any EU tax payers care to justify this insanity? Probably several millions, yes. Considering the EU has 450 inhabitants, that*s increasing my tax bill by cents. Well worth the money to me. Probably, MS will try to backtrack and violate regulations at some point so it will pay for itself too. I'll never get the US masochism where interference by regulators to defend the end-user is somehow se…

> Probably several millions, yes. Considering the EU has 450 inhabitants, that*s increasing my tax bill by cents. Well worth the money to me. But this never ends. Every week there's a new article here about how the EU is forcing electronics makers implement their preferred charger ports, or displaying cookie notices to EU visitors, or making phone batteries replaceable. It's endless crap that adds drag to businesses…

>has almost no significance to the average person's life.

I very much disagree that prescribing a common charging port for phones has had no significance to the avg. person's life. I am old enough to remember my drawer full of chargers for various phone companies - some even created new plugs for newer generations of phones.

> we should consider if those pennies would be better in the pockets of workers

That's not how it works, those pennies would end up in the pockets of anonymous wealth funds and the family offices of the filthy rich while workers had to buy phone chargers with all their new phones.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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The hard and fast rule is: you're not permitted to have a source code interpreter. That's the "rules of engagement", same way you can't run Flash or Linux binaries; the same way you can't touch windows kernel space without a code-signing certificate from a eye-gouging authority. Exceptions to apples rule are rarely given, even for educational purposes; such as pythonista. When taken though that lens; if we hadn't tur…

> When taken though that lens No thanks, I'll take properly managed freedom within my OS. > if we hadn't turned everything into a fucking web-app Could you elaborate?

>> if we hadn't turned everything into a fucking web-app

> Could you elaborate?

I run a web browser with JS turned off and the web is mostly unusable for me, even things that should be plain documents like news reports try to choke down a dozen or so megabytes of obfuscated garbage that it insists must run on my CPU doing goodness knows what to render a document in common markdown.

So, despite being "free" you just run any old garbage you happen to come across on the internet and hope the "Fantastically optimised awesomely sandboxed" runtime that is definitely not too complicated to have issues (despite being one of the most complicated interpreters in history), definitely has no security bugs and will protect you.

I'm not pro apple here. I'm anti the enshittification of everything because some arsehat decided it was necessary for me to run whatever arbitrary shite they managed to vomit onto a web-server.

That Apple makes it hard for you? Fine. Enemy of my enemy.

Also: fuck Chromes monopoly.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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The regulatory "burden" is also a benefit, in general, which a lot of people fail to understand and is also the reason Brexit Britain hasn't significantly diverged from EU rules.

Yes, it's hard to explain to people just how much of a saving being in the EU makes on regulations. It outweighs having the odd regulation that you don't agree with. If the UK does move away from EU regulations then they'll have to duplicate a lot of effort.

Northern Ireland is still de-facto part of the EU. So unless the UK rejoins the EU or recognises United Ireland - they are stuck in this limbo.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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We don’t police tech monopolies in the USA, they are actually in charge because all of Congress owns the SP500, which is dominated by tech. We have to find a way out of this dystopia spiral.

That's not quite it. The US doesn't, in general, give any extra rights or protections to its people without a bit of force, and then one is lucky. Hence, no real consumer protection (which would include this). No signing of a thing giving rights for children, and so on. The rights folks legally have were grand enough 200 years ago, but have become substandard over time with little upgrading.

I had a call yesterday night from a West Virginian friend, and surprisingly the US just extanded worker protection? Or something, at least that was the first time he was exited by US politics since I met him.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Microsoft is determined to make users use Edge + Bing.

This is a very good thing for Linux on desktop. I wish MS was way more aggressive here, hopefully it's just the begining.

It's not. The huge majority of users simply doesn't care.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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I love Microsoft, but I hate whoever is controlling all these awful choices for their OS. Lets be real its probably a marketing team trying to sell office and whatever else. I just want a version of Windows for actual professionals with no nonsense on it. Slim it down, make it feel like I'm on a 2023 machine with the minimalism of like idk Windows XP or Windows 7. No nonsense.

Remember back when Nadella took over Microsoft. HN was all over it like the second coming of Jesus. I complained that it doesn't change the organisation and this is just marketing. I was completely right. I remember being downvoted over and over again suggesting this is the end game of the takeover and the push that was promoted. Microsoft wants to be a subscription company and will try and funnel you down any route…

Being downvoted doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong, it can also mean that people just didn't like what you wrote. In the light of some positive news, keeping the same negative attitude towards an entity may invoke dislike. If later it becomes clear that you were right doesn't make that first reaction unjustified. Being downvoted is for me usually an urge to rethink how I'm saying things rather than what I'm saying, although, as always, YMMV.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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This is the expected, most intuitive, and only sensible behavior, and yet Microsoft somehow, for some reason, decides it is okay not to use the default browser?

Wait a minute. Are they trying to cause me to have a complete meltdown? This is so irritating. The task bar can also no longer be placed vertically on the left or right. Imo. Microsoft should be forced to open source important parts of Windows so that these processes can be more democratized by users of the system.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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WebKit is probably the only thing holding the web open at this point. Imagine if this last bastion of non-Chromium went away, and Googles stranglehold on the web was finally total.

Opening up iOS to other browser engines doesn't mean that suddenly Safari stops working. If anything it would force Safari to become competitive with Chrome.

Regardless it will mean that Safari will lose a significant proportion its market share.

There will be less incentive for developers to make sure their stuff works on anything but Chrome forcing safari devs to just play catch up all the time.

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