Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

blogs.windows.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 366 posts

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#101

Post by creshal »

Aachen wrote: post #80

I would also urge people to wonder: why do they care so much ? I don't have the answer. Especially in the past, it seemed like a cost factor to keep up a modern browser (just ask Mozilla) if people might as well install anything else and still buy your OS and use your services. That may have just been going with the flow, not wanting to miss the boat. My best guess for nowadays is the same as why Google hijacked a lo…

> Does Microsoft (plan to) run an ad business?

Microsoft Advertisement is pulling in 10 billion dollars a year (~=5% of total) and Microsoft wants to aggressively expand it.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#102

Post by echelon »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #90
desi_ninja wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When will Apple admit?

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

Apple doesn't even allow other browsers that aren't webkit reskins on iOS, which is far worse.

Both companies need regulatory actions to reign them in. Apple probably needs to be broken up.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#103

Post by resoluteteeth »

Aachen wrote: post #80

I would also urge people to wonder: why do they care so much ? I don't have the answer. Especially in the past, it seemed like a cost factor to keep up a modern browser (just ask Mozilla) if people might as well install anything else and still buy your OS and use your services. That may have just been going with the flow, not wanting to miss the boat. My best guess for nowadays is the same as why Google hijacked a lo…

> I don't have the answer. Especially in the past, it seemed like a cost factor to keep up a modern browser (just ask Mozilla) if people might as well install anything else and still buy your OS and use your services.

Microsoft ditched their own browser engine and the current version of edge is just using chromium, so it's cheap to maintain.

Edge uses bing by default so Microsoft can serve you ads, and it has a shopping plugin built in which also probably generates revenue. They can also try to redirect people to other microsoft services whenever they want in the future.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#104

Post by fh9302 »

horsawlarway wrote: post #82
baz00 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well avoiding the problem to start with is a perfectly good solution.

Apple avoids the problem of not respecting my browser choice how, exactly? Apple open webviews in Safari, does not respect the user's choice at all, and doesn't even allow you to install a non-safari browser on their mobile OS. This is like peak irony. Apple is the walking definition of this problem.

Why are you comparing a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system? On macOS Apple lets you trivially set a different default browser and doesn't annoy you about it.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#105

Post by krzyk »

kypro wrote: post #77

Wonder how much this regulation cost to draft, pass, and implement? Several million dollars? Any EU tax payers care to justify this insanity? I mean does any normal person even care about this? Eg, not people on HN with Macbook Pros – your average Windows user. At the end of the day Windows does loads of stuff I don't like. That's why I don't use Windows anymore. Like with most things the EU regulates this just isn't…

Why having a choice is something bad?

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#106

Post by PrimeMcFly »

slimsag wrote: post #96
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

You can’t install non-WebKit browsers on iOS or iPadOS.

That's not disrespecting a set user preference though, it's limiting what a user can do on their platform.

Different even if just as or more shitty.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#108

Post by toxik »

slimsag wrote: post #96
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

You can’t install non-WebKit browsers on iOS or iPadOS.

WebKit is probably the only thing holding the web open at this point. Imagine if this last bastion of non-Chromium went away, and Googles stranglehold on the web was finally total.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#110

Post by toxik »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #81
djbusby wrote: post #4

Neat! But why not respect the users choice everywhere on earth?

I love Microsoft, but I hate whoever is controlling all these awful choices for their OS. Lets be real its probably a marketing team trying to sell office and whatever else. I just want a version of Windows for actual professionals with no nonsense on it. Slim it down, make it feel like I'm on a 2023 machine with the minimalism of like idk Windows XP or Windows 7. No nonsense.

> I hate whoever is controlling all these awful choices for their OS.

That’s Microsoft. They control their own software.

Post reply on HN