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Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#91
post #4

Neat! But why not respect the users choice everywhere on earth?

Microsoft decided they would rather to extract more value from their captive users than the users are will to hand over if the law doesn't make it too expensive.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#92
post #9

My decision to move to Mac when the M1 came out is starting to pay more and more dividends!

I agree. I have Firefox, Chrome, Tor Browser and Brave running next to my current browser of preference, Safari. But switching back and forth is easy, and macOS respects my choice when I change the settings.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#93

I'm loving M$ having to admit they're intentionally abusing their users by disrespecting their preferences even when it would cost them nothing to do so.

When will Apple admit?

Where is Apple 'intentionally abusing their users by disrespecting their preferences'?

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#94

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When will Apple admit?

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

They respect it on Mac and don't let you have a non WebKit browser on iOS

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#95
post #77

Wonder how much this regulation cost to draft, pass, and implement? Several million dollars? Any EU tax payers care to justify this insanity? I mean does any normal person even care about this? Eg, not people on HN with Macbook Pros – your average Windows user. At the end of the day Windows does loads of stuff I don't like. That's why I don't use Windows anymore. Like with most things the EU regulates this just isn't…

>Several million dollars? Any EU tax payers care to justify this insanity?

Probably several millions, yes. Considering the EU has 450 inhabitants, that*s increasing my tax bill by cents. Well worth the money to me. Probably, MS will try to backtrack and violate regulations at some point so it will pay for itself too.

I'll never get the US masochism where interference by regulators to defend the end-user is somehow seen as odious.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When will Apple admit?

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

You can’t install non-WebKit browsers on iOS or iPadOS.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When will Apple admit?

Apple doesn’t disrespect set user preferences in the same way that Microsoft does. This sort of oversimplified drive-by whataboutism isn’t great for conversation.

on iOS Apple do not even allow the choice of the engine.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Because other places have thriving tech industry which can’t waste time checking what browser to run

Your argument doesn’t hold at all. The functionality is already there, so ask yourself, why are they depriving people outside of the EU this functionality when it’s already there?

Mine was a sarcastic joke, but to reply seriously to your questions, it's not about the effort to implement the functionality imho, it's more about missed revenue, Microsoft is using Edge as a way to monetize windows users traffic, so this is going to affect somehow their profits

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

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Microsoft is clearly playing on Ultra Violence level here in an attempt to force as much Edge market share as technically possible. I guess someone pretty high up has their bonuses tied to those numbers.

It's on the same embarrassing level as putting candy crush in the start menu.

After installing some updates (on a 10 Pro machine) recently I got a nice modal pop-up begging me to change my default search engine in Chrome (which I don't even use) to Bing. (Hey, at least they asked, I guess - next security update will just set bing as the search engine in all browsers, just like IE toolbar malware from 2004).

Whole operating system just comes off as super shady and desperate since Windows 10 - feels a lot like fake antivirus malwares from the 2000s. It has always been pushy in this millennium, sometimes for a good reason (updates are important), but all of this is without any decent reason.

Installing those updates of course also re-enabled automatically installing drivers without any prompt, which promptly caused the Nahamic malware to be re-installed through Windows Update. Somehow most IT people are not bothered by this. I imagine if you would tell this stuff to a mid-2000s IT person their head would simply explode.

Re: Windows 11 system components use the default browser to open links in Europe

#100
post #4

Neat! But why not respect the users choice everywhere on earth?

I love Microsoft, but I hate whoever is controlling all these awful choices for their OS. Lets be real its probably a marketing team trying to sell office and whatever else. I just want a version of Windows for actual professionals with no nonsense on it. Slim it down, make it feel like I'm on a 2023 machine with the minimalism of like idk Windows XP or Windows 7. No nonsense.

You can’t “love Microsoft” as if it is a homogeneous entity whilst carving out sections of it for the purpose of attributing everything you’re against. Not only is this simply a sign that Microsoft is a bloated old tech company like a bunch of others, looking to make more money, but it is also consistent with a pattern of Microsoft’s behaviour over the last few decades.
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