Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
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#2as someone who is now fully accustomed to using an ubuntu derivative for my machine, i find this absurd but at the same time, fitting.
one of the most fascinating ideas that got ingrained in the last 50 years was the idea that TV HAD commercials. a 30 minute show would be only 22 minutes while 8 would be reserved for ADS. since the ads were part of the programming, there was no other alternative but to sit through them.
Today, youtube has the same in video ads and people just sit through them. Its not jarring or making them feel uneasy because thats the same thing on TV as well.
Now, microsoft is adopting the same thing, I'd say apple too because i recently after a long time tried an apple device and the music app was pushing HARD to get the music + or something. Plus, app store now has ADS. on a thousand dollar phone. in a first party app.
i remember the stupid reasoning of xiaomi when they started having ads in the system (oh we are just subsidizing cost of phone with ads) that did nothing to help pricing but gave them additional revenue source. fuck them.
i have a moto phone which has stock apps. 0 ads. all apps are uninstallable without any fusss. i dont have google signed in the phone. i have pi-hole at home.
here is my idea. imagine if i buy a mobile in cash and don't connect it to internet, am i really causing any financial harm to anyone? if no then removing ads should not affect anyone also.
"think of the creators" is often talked on youtube ad blocking.
what about microsoft and apple who shove ads on a paid software and a paid device? why should i see ads there? what "benefit" do i gain? same for google ads across the web.
not to talk about tracking
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#3I wonder if this is linked to the other HN entry [1] titled "Windows 11 will respect default browser for system apps in the European Union."
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#4Yesterday was a great day. I got permission to wipe the windows 11 laptop I was given by work, and install Linux. Windows 11 is abysmal.
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#5"You might argue that this is Microsoft’s operating system, or that when using Microsoft’s browser and search engine it’s well within its rights to try and sway people away from Chrome."
"Microsoft’s behaviors here are totally beyond a simple webpage prompt. I shouldn’t have to be dismissing pop-ups that appear on top of my apps and games, or ones that magically appear after I update my copy of Windows."
Windows 11 is doing what it was programmed to do: https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM?t=57
Sadly, this kind of user-hostile behavior is increasingly common and a form of enshitification (https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/) of the operating system.
What should Windows 11 users do to let Microsoft know that such behaviors are intrusive and offensive?
Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome
#6"You might argue that this is Microsoft’s operating system, or that when using Microsoft’s browser and search engine it’s well within its rights to try and sway people away from Chrome." "Microsoft’s behaviors here are totally beyond a simple webpage prompt. I shouldn’t have to be dismissing pop-ups that appear on top of my apps and games, or ones that magically appear after I update my copy of Windows." Windows 11 i…
> What should Windows 11 users do to let Microsoft know that such behaviors are intrusive and offensive?
They'll tell you to use the Feedback Hub, but all of that feedback promptly gets discarded or drowned out in the SNR of overzealous "insiders" acting as free QA for Microsoft praising every horrible decision they make.
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#7I hope this will work, I mean, I hope they will ditch... Windows.
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#8isn't this same behaviour when you open Google, they try to sell you a Chrome?
Just cross selling their products using the medium they own.
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#9Windows, the Lada of operating systems. I had to try and get my wife's laptop working with the VPN the other day. Worked fine on Mac and Linux, but on Windows, I had to uninstall a load of drivers and then do a registry hack. What a pile of shite.
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#10Windows 7 really was the last good Windows release. After that we got the hideous Metro redesign, then all the telemetry and shoving of Edge etc. down our throats.