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She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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Re: She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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I really don't understand why the US doesn't have a grown up healthcare system. Do you just not see how much better healthcare is in the rest of the developed world?

US healthcare system works for people with money, and people with money make up most of the voting base.

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I really don't understand why the US doesn't have a grown up healthcare system. Do you just not see how much better healthcare is in the rest of the developed world?

I’ve lived in quite a few different countries (including a couple that are frequently praised for their public healthcare systems), and the quality of the healthcare I’ve received in the US is far better than anything I’ve had anywhere else.

....If you can afford it. Which, you having lived in multiple countries, sounds like you can.

If you cant afford it, you're fucked in hundreds of different ways, including basically signing for any care "i agree to pay whatever im told for the rest of my life" blank check.

And healthcare is the leading cause of bankruptcy. This sort of crap doesn't happen in a decent country.

https://www.forbes.com/2010/03/25/why-people-go-bankrupt-per...

Re: She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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I'd like to see a new regulatory regime that allows individual health care providers like doctors, nurses, etc to start their own practices that are cash only. The sense I get is that small strappy businesses like that can't start because of the regulatory regime that's too expensive to comply with.

But yeah in the end all of this machinery that gets between the patient and the provider and affects that relationship negatively needs to be done away with.

Re: She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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post #4

I really don't understand why the US doesn't have a grown up healthcare system. Do you just not see how much better healthcare is in the rest of the developed world?

If you can afford it the healthcare in the States can be quite good. And there's a massive number of Americans who can afford it. I can't say off the cuff what share of the population is that but Americans being ever on the verge of bankruptcy is mostly a cliche.

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post #5
post #4

I really don't understand why the US doesn't have a grown up healthcare system. Do you just not see how much better healthcare is in the rest of the developed world?

The healthcare system in the US is much better for a small group of people who make a lot of money from it, and they have bought the entirety of one, and much of another political party to ensure that it stays that way.

This is exactly it. Everyone asks why the American people put up with this, as if our congress actually gives a damn about the average American. Congressional votes are bought and paid for by corporations which benefit from the current, broken system.

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post #4

I really don't understand why the US doesn't have a grown up healthcare system. Do you just not see how much better healthcare is in the rest of the developed world?

US healthcare system works for people with money, and people with money make up most of the voting base.

No, it's that congress generally only cares about those that donate to their campaign, and that just so happens to be the corporations that benefit from the current broken system.

Re: She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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To the hospital systems and insurance companies, the confusion is a feature, not a bug. They assume most patients and their families will just knuckle under and pay what they're told they owe. Since the health care sector is one of the largest political donors, elected officials have little incentive to fix anything, so they nibble at the edges and call it reform.

It’s not donations. It’s the fact that the largest employer in nearly every congressional district is a healthcare system. Heard this from a guy who worked on the ACA.

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Every interaction I have involves checking out, standing before a sign that says, "all fees must be paid at time of service." I pay then, then months later get more bills to be paid well after the time of service.

As far as I can tell, this is the correct way to handle this? I haven’t paid attention to any medical bills sent in the mail since I started working 15 years ago (I generally pay what they ask at the point of service), and I’ve never noticed any consequences (no denial of service anywhere, has never shown up in any way on my credit report, etc) — as far as my experience has shown, any bills sent after the fact are completely optional to pay.

Re: She paid husband's hospital bill. A year after his death, they wanted more money

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve lived in quite a few different countries (including a couple that are frequently praised for their public healthcare systems), and the quality of the healthcare I’ve received in the US is far better than anything I’ve had anywhere else.

The quality of care you did receive in those countries may have been lesser, but what could you have gotten if you paid as much there as you pay in the US?

> but what could you have gotten if you paid as much there as you pay in the US?

If you ignore the fact that I was already paying substantially more for it with higher taxes, the answer is still nothing. Countries with public healthcare don’t have expansive private healthcare systems, and nowhere in the world has a healthcare system that offers the level of service that the US system does. For example my sister was giving birth in New Zealand, and I wanted to just pay out of pocket for a private hospital for her. There are zero private hospitals in the country that offer this service, so her only option was to go to her local (and notoriously bad) hospital. She remained in the maternity ward for nearly a week, because while she was there that hospital had its 15th norovirus outbreak for the year.

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