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Maybe we should just regulate this?
A question I have is whether PFAS exposure through these disposable products results in absorption into our bloodstream. If the answer is yes, these materials should be banned. For example, we already know how bad BPA is and the EU has banned the substance from being used in receipt printing.
I guess in the US, the FDA is responsible for regulation of PFAS in food contact applications: https://www.fda.gov/food/environmental-contaminants-food/and...
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There was a show here in Australia which looked at paper packaging of take out food having high amounts of PFAS. If paper is treated to not just disintegrate/get soaked immediately - its going to involve some nasty shit.
Wax is also used, wouldn't that be enough for most applications?
I use some silicon kitchen stuff. It's terrific. I'm dreading some future revelation that it's even worse than PFAS (eg Teflon).
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Wax is also used, wouldn't that be enough for most applications?
Wax is great, but it isn’t as likely to stick to smooth surfaces for long periods, or if things get hot or abrasive. It’s good on cloth, covering a dish you put in the fridge — but not sure how it would work with burger wrappers or cups of hot coffee, that are where most PFAS are used. I’d love to check if, in a straw, it would be perceptible. Metal straws remain the simplest solution.
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Yeah, the focus on straws is strange to me as that’s only a tiny part of the problem: every fast food wrapper, burger box, “disposable” soda or coffee cup has PFAS—maybe not the plastic lids, but those are clearly not things you want to dispose of either. The only exceptions are the old-school pizza boxes: that’s untreated cardboard, and they don’t handle the steam and grease for much longer than the delivery. I was…
The focus on straws comes from two angles: * the original environmental motivation was that they are strong, non-bio-degradable structures that pose threats to wildlife, similar to how the old 'can rings' got phased out. * anything that involves government regulation, especially government regulation of stuff that involves the fossil petrochemical industry has an immensely well funded push back against it. It's a sli…
How are you going to deal with solar radiation, earth's position and orientation, the jet stream, and water vapor?
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The focus on straws comes from two angles: * the original environmental motivation was that they are strong, non-bio-degradable structures that pose threats to wildlife, similar to how the old 'can rings' got phased out. * anything that involves government regulation, especially government regulation of stuff that involves the fossil petrochemical industry has an immensely well funded push back against it. It's a sli…
>>>once you ban straws the next thing you know you might actually deal with the main cause of climate change and we wouldn't want that now would we. How are you going to deal with solar radiation, earth's position and orientation, the jet stream, and water vapor?