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> In July, leaked messages seen by Insider suggested that Amazon would force a “voluntary resignation” on employees [...] Is Amazon trying to avoid firing people to screw them out of unemployment benefits? No way a forced resignation is not the same as firing.
Y’all gonna unionize or what? It has to get old listening to edicts from the folks who filter up to the top. Could also investigate a constructive dismissal class action in the interim if you can find someone willing to take it on.
This feels like the first time there would be serious impetus (and a perfect case) for tech workers to form a union.
Otherwise the deal will always change and the screws turned tighter, forever the boiled frog.
https://prospect.org/labor/2023-08-28-bidens-nlrb-brings-wor...
https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-issues-d...
I don't know the origins of the "disagree and commit" philosophy, but Jassy's use seems like a self-serving perversion of what is an attempt at dealing with decision deadlock. ... that is, disagree-and-commit transactionally seems like it ought to be between peers. Disagree-and-commit when applied between superiors and reports could be rewritten as just "shut up and follow orders."
Where's the deadlock? It sounds like there is consensus on the side of people making the decisions (management).
I don't know the origins of the "disagree and commit" philosophy, but Jassy's use seems like a self-serving perversion of what is an attempt at dealing with decision deadlock. ... that is, disagree-and-commit transactionally seems like it ought to be between peers. Disagree-and-commit when applied between superiors and reports could be rewritten as just "shut up and follow orders."
Once the decision is made and communicated, you're expected to follow/implement it.
Said differently: what's the practical alternative? If you don't like a decision, just continue to disagree with it, pocket veto/ignore it, pretend it doesn't apply to you/your team?
I would love this to wind up as a driver for Unionisation but in this context I can't believe no legal input has been made to the CEOs office about consequences for his words, if truly as reported.
> In July, leaked messages seen by Insider suggested that Amazon would force a “voluntary resignation” on employees [...] Is Amazon trying to avoid firing people to screw them out of unemployment benefits? No way a forced resignation is not the same as firing.
> In July, leaked messages seen by Insider suggested that Amazon would force a “voluntary resignation” on employees [...] Is Amazon trying to avoid firing people to screw them out of unemployment benefits? No way a forced resignation is not the same as firing.
Nobody wants to say they got fired from Amazon. If the writing is on the wall, a silent majority will jump ship.
Especially if the story was "I lived 125 miles away from the Amazon office where my team was and they implemented a return-to-office mandate."
I don't know the origins of the "disagree and commit" philosophy, but Jassy's use seems like a self-serving perversion of what is an attempt at dealing with decision deadlock. ... that is, disagree-and-commit transactionally seems like it ought to be between peers. Disagree-and-commit when applied between superiors and reports could be rewritten as just "shut up and follow orders."
> decision deadlock Where's the deadlock? It sounds like there is consensus on the side of people making the decisions (management).
Usual dumb management BAU. Worker in the cubicle is the limit of their imagination.