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As English is not my first language, Elements of Style really has done a decent job of highlighting things that I either completely missed back in my English education, or was not covered at all.

I struggle mightily with "on"/"in". It's a funny thing; English native speakers will tell you that there are rules: "in" is for "inside" and "on" is for "on the surface", as simple as that. But almost every use I can think of is ambiguous. Is that smile in your face or on your face? Are you sleeping in your bed, because your mattress closes over you like the insides of a bag, or on your bed, because it's just a woode…

It's not just you; engines like Inform also struggle to maintain coherence.

Things go in a CONTAINER. Things go on a SURFACE.

Then there's FURNITURE, which does both but not really. People sit on a bench, but they sit at a table. Only Things sit on a table. People sleep in a bed, but all Things sit on a bed.

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> On that subject: as a non-native speaker I always wondered if there actually is a grammar (not syle) guide which is considered authorative, as there is for other languages? No living language has a fully authoritative grammar book, as the grammar of living languages is discovered, not prescribed. That's a part of what linguists do, after all, and they have plenty of debates over precisely how to do it. The overly-s…

I think Italian actually has an official version, which is from when the Academia della Crusca got together and decided what would be the official Italian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_della_Crusca

Again, a government claiming they have one doesn't mean it's possible.

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I struggle mightily with "on"/"in". It's a funny thing; English native speakers will tell you that there are rules: "in" is for "inside" and "on" is for "on the surface", as simple as that. But almost every use I can think of is ambiguous. Is that smile in your face or on your face? Are you sleeping in your bed, because your mattress closes over you like the insides of a bag, or on your bed, because it's just a woode…

Prepositions are pretty arbitrary in all the languages I know. Often there is more than one option with slightly different connotations or even denotations. Like for example “on time” vs “in time.”

This is why I like Swedish. Just use "på" for every preposition. Even when you should use a different one, just use på anyway. It'll be fine.
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