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San Jose and Sunnyvale in California has "A Slice of New York" which is a co-op pizza operation: https://asliceofny.com/about/ Video about the co-op https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbupz-iuhU
Had no idea. They’ve got great pizza with very reasonable prices. (and some huge sizes)
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> Somehow finances have to work, which is usually a harsh reality for some. Ex: Hey we can't pay workers $250/hr without raises prices to above what customers are willing to pay If it was worker owned wouldn't you just pay everyone some reasonable wage that the business can afford and then also split profits evenly?
What is "reasonable," what is "fair." These words signify a death spiral in wage discussions. The reality is that businesses cannot increase prices forever and have a market that still wants to pay them. If I sell burgers for $10k and they're shit burgers then I'd make no money and have to shut it all down. Just like my friend who shut down his cabinetry business because he was paying his employees more than himself…
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Had no idea. They’ve got great pizza with very reasonable prices. (and some huge sizes)
Very reasonable prices are $40 + 8% coop fee for a standard large pizza? That's almost $50 after tax. https://asliceofny.com/sunnyvale/menu/
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Green on pink is now my new least favorite color combo. Thanks, I hate it! Edit: I encourage downvoters to actually try to read the linked page before downvoting me. It’s incredibly unreadable.
MacBook M1, afternoon sunlight behind me but not directly glaring. Brightness is at about 60%. It's readable. It's not great. I've seen a lot worse (slightly dark grey on lighter grey, faded tan on medium blue, cyan on bright green...)
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Democracy only works when just about everyone wants the same thing. And even then leaders generally abuse power. The lower the stakes, the worse it gets.
I think I agree with the point but people don’t need to want all the same things so I think I’d rather phrase it this way: “Democracy fails when the people and their leaders fail to realise that the thing they want above all is peace and general prosperity, and that neither of those is a naturally occurring phenomenon.” Because the peaceful transfer of power as well as respect for the truth, and equality before the l…
What happens when they don't want to do the actual work anymore? Do they still keep their partial ownership of the restaurant and hire wagies? What if they can't work anymore? It's not easy to step and fetch for 10 hours a day at age 50. What if they just need to reduce their schedule to 10 hours a week (and not pull their weight)?
What if most people willing to do grunt work also aren't very good at managing a restaurant? At menus, at book keeping? What if people prefer to be served by the cute young things that you tend to see at many chains (even if they're dressed more modestly than those at Hooters)? You know, the same sort of people who are just unlikely to want to become invested in such a place, where they'll be tied down to it?
Yes, absolutely, but there are pitfalls: * Somehow finances have to work, which is usually a harsh reality for some. Ex: Hey we can't pay workers $250/hr without raises prices to above what customers are willing to pay * Consumers despite "Least common denominator" which is often the result of "design by committee". Usually consumers are after something niche, unique, artistic, and creative, which is the inspiration…
These points are solved by the workers electing an executive or directors who makes those decisions, until the workers are sick of them and replace them in an AGM or an emergency meeting. Works the same as shareholders.
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> Somehow finances have to work, which is usually a harsh reality for some. Ex: Hey we can't pay workers $250/hr without raises prices to above what customers are willing to pay If it was worker owned wouldn't you just pay everyone some reasonable wage that the business can afford and then also split profits evenly?
What is "reasonable," what is "fair." These words signify a death spiral in wage discussions. The reality is that businesses cannot increase prices forever and have a market that still wants to pay them. If I sell burgers for $10k and they're shit burgers then I'd make no money and have to shut it all down. Just like my friend who shut down his cabinetry business because he was paying his employees more than himself…
I acknowledge that you have seen something similar not work out, first hand, but in this case it is apparently different.
Left Hand Brewery in CO is majority employee owned but not 100%. https://www.brewbound.com/news/left-hand-brewing-now-majorit... (2015)
Not sure how you can be employee owned and have a parent company. I think the Wikipedia page needs some edits.
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Very reasonable prices are $40 + 8% coop fee for a standard large pizza? That's almost $50 after tax. https://asliceofny.com/sunnyvale/menu/
A large cheese is $25, and 18” is quite large. Expensive maybe but it’s legitimately good pizza as other have said.