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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by kayodelycaon »

m3kw9 wrote: post #82
toddmorey wrote: post #75

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This is the frame of the car. Don’t accept a new car with cracks in the frame. Ever.

I mean why is this news that a car can have defects? Are most tesla y from the same press like this?

There's a massive visible crack in a frame that you couldn't have missed if you're assembling the car... that's beyond defect to intentionally and actively contributing to harm.

It's the same level of malice as knowingly installing an odd brick of brown putty in the steering wheel instead of an air bag. The worker clearly didn't know C4 doesn't belong in a car.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by rsynnott »

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #111
rsynnott wrote: post #91

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For some users the storage became _extremely_ slow over time. Not sure did anyone ever really figure out what was going on.

That's just normal flash memory degradation when you are using low quality chips. It's very common, especially among low end Samsungs. It's not something that can be fixed on the software side.

It was really very rapid in the Nexus 7 for me, though. I think my iPad Air 2 has it to an extent now, say, but it’s _9 years old_; it is somewhat understandable. My 2012 Nexus 7 was starting to behave very badly a year in.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by chrisco255 »

jeffbee wrote: post #61
ceejayoz wrote: post #16

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You assume incorrectly. https://electrek.co/2021/10/05/tesla-building-model-y-bodies... > In an auto manufacturing first, Tesla has started building Model Y bodies with two giant single casting pieces for the front and back of the electric SUV.

Anyone should be highly skeptical whenever Tesla adopts an "industry first". There may be good reasons the industry doesn't do that. It may be something that an experienced engineer would advise against.

It's mostly just a lack of willingness to spend on large casting machines. Tesla is famous for purchasing the largest presses: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_Press

Tesla is partly empowered to do this because electric vehicles are mechanically simpler than ICEs, and the batteries themselves also are made to be structural components. There's nothing fundamentally unsound about pressed aluminum.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by saiya-jin »

71a54xd wrote: post #112
drewg123 wrote: post #64

Sounds like not much has changed since 2015. A good friend ordered a new Model S in 2015. It arrived with a "squeak" that turned out to be due to missing welds in structural components of the chassis. They wanted him to sign an NDA to get a replacement vehicle (which he refused to do, both on principle, and because he'd talked to friends about it already). So he was forced to keep his vehicle, which was then repaired…

Your friend was a fool to not take the new vehicle (removing his financial burden) and then just do whatever he wanted with the info... Granted, I'd lease a Hyundai before ever considering buying a Tesla. It's too bad bc I like the tech, but lack of ownership, software telemetry and shoddy service is a deal breaker.

Yeah shoddy service that is. A colleague has model S, in Switzerland, when going for some service checks they kept him there, in the middle of nowhere without any good public transport for half a day without any warning during work day, he was furious.

Every single crappy dealer/official service here will give you a replacement car to not mess up your life for just stupid car checks, whatever basic car is fine. Tesla no, fuck off we don't care, wait.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by postmodest »

rsynnott wrote: post #67
gwbas1c wrote: post #47

This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…

> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…

Being "in the market" it wasn't until thr new crop of Hyundai EVs came out that there was anything approaching the Tesla in the car-design feature set. Sure you could buy a Prius, but I always felt like the Prius was designed to be ugly and awkward to drive specifically so it wouldn't hurt Toyotas billions of dollars of ICE sales.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by stef25 »

chrisco255 wrote: post #109
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #86

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Who's to stop the victim from recording evidence, accepting the replacement car, and submitting said evidence anonymously to the media and / or consumer protection and / or the car safety institutions? Are NDAs like that actually enforceable?

It would be a weird play for anyone to sign such a thing. Most states in the U.S. have lemon laws that prevent maufacturers from selling such vehicles. A manufacturer only gets a certain number of attempts at repairs (usually 3 for new cars) on new vehicles or a limited time frame to fix them before they must offer a full replacement.

> A manufacturer only gets a certain number of attempts at repairs (usually 3 for new cars) on new vehicles or a limited time frame to fix them before they must offer a full replacement

Wow that would be awesome. Someone I know here in the EU had a leaking sun roof on their Toyota and after so many fixes and replacements that did nothing (and she had to pay for) the dealer basically said "we can't fix it, the parts are made by another company bla bla ...".

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