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The rise of pity marketing

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Re: The rise of pity marketing

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Post by Retric »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #62
roenxi wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, internal combustion engines are an inefficient use of resources. They just happen to be the best option. It is basically impossible to design an organisation that directs resources to economically unproductive people. $700 / $3,000 going to the right spot could be reasonably effective. I mean, at least the Red Cross won't take a fraction of the money and use it to fund ruinous, murderous and pointless ra…

Spending only $700 out of $3000 on the stated mission is doing a decent job, since when?

They aren’t allocating 2/3 of monetary donations to blood drives.

Running blood drives is a major part of their mission, it’s also largely self sustaining because they are selling the blood.

Re: The rise of pity marketing

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Post by noduerme »

brabel wrote: post #65
noduerme wrote: post #50

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I think you're reading me wrong. I'm saying that I've accepted exactly this: I was never as good as I wanted to be as a musician. I did always judge myself more quickly and more harshly than anyone else would. I did accept that it wasn't going to be a sustainable career. I'm writing, in all earnestness, to say that I'm glad my 80 year old mom is still my biggest fan . For what it's worth, my father told me when I was…

Sorry... comments on the Internet are always without any context so everyone just goes into the direction they see given their own context (which is what I did).

Totally cool. I think I went off a bit half-cocked on the original comment as well. I didn't communicate what I meant very clearly. Probably a better conversation to have over a beer.

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

galleywest200 wrote: post #21
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #6

Are we sure all the examples cited were manufactured? Isn’t it possible that in a lot of the examples, someone had a bad day and other people responded with kindness?

Where does the article say they were faked? > While it may be true that Grier only had one audience member at her initial preview, people soon realised that she had posted a nearly identical tweet at the start of the Fringe in 2022. Pity moved tickets both times. It seems the article is talking about "pity marketing" as a whole, even if true.

“These cheap and often obvious tactics”, “This manufactured pity”.

I don’t know that the article says the events were fake. It questions the motivations of the people posting the events.

My comment was that many of these posts may not be part of deliberate “pity, marketing” efforts.

Re: The rise of pity marketing

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

Mordisquitos wrote: post #47
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #6

Are we sure all the examples cited were manufactured? Isn’t it possible that in a lot of the examples, someone had a bad day and other people responded with kindness?

The implication isn't that the examples were manufactured. Rather, it is that once they had occurred, the subjects involved publicly shared the incidents with the express intent of self-promotion and not merely for emotional support — hence the term "pity marketing".

Yeah, but are we sure that’s why they shared them?

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

andsoitis wrote: post #16
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #6

Are we sure all the examples cited were manufactured? Isn’t it possible that in a lot of the examples, someone had a bad day and other people responded with kindness?

why would you lament your failure or your mishappenings by broadcasting to the world?

Well, maybe these people only have a few followers on social, so they don’t think they are sharing it with the world. Indeed, if they are lamenting, the fact that no one came to their reading, maybe they assume no one reads their social media. It’s only quote with the world” after it goes viral.

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Post by randunel »

_a_a_a_ wrote: post #44
randunel wrote: post #42

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> I give generously to charitable organizations that do the most good. This is my religious obligation, and it's also the best way to maximize my bucks. And they maximize your bucks with outlandish purchases for executives and "fund raising" parties for their selected few. I stopped caring for large NGOs when I found out how deeply corrupt their management is, including middle management. If you want to help, don't g…

Don't diss without actual links. "outlandish purchases for executives and fund raising parties" is shit-slinging and i'm tired of it from the minority of destructive wankers on HN (and elsewhere) that they can't see anything good, even a little, but have to presume the worst and pull it down. Your value in society is a net negative.

https://www.g4media.ro/crucea-rosie-romana-cumpara-telefoane...

Of course, you can't help the Ukrainians unless you're sporting the latest iphone.

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Post by randunel »

datavirtue wrote: post #55
randunel wrote: post #42

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> I give generously to charitable organizations that do the most good. This is my religious obligation, and it's also the best way to maximize my bucks. And they maximize your bucks with outlandish purchases for executives and "fund raising" parties for their selected few. I stopped caring for large NGOs when I found out how deeply corrupt their management is, including middle management. If you want to help, don't g…

Fuck straight off with trying to call the Red Cross corrupt. You are an absolute ignorant wretch. Never in my life have I run into a batch of people I would trust more. Every single person in that org is highly underpaid or unpaid and they work relentlessly actually helping people. Saints, the lot of them. I worked there for years and had intimate access to detailed branch financials and operations.

When you're older, try being hosted by the Red Cross for the remainder of your years https://adevarul.ro/stiri-locale/focsani/camin-de-batrani-al...

https://www.jurnaldevrancea.ro/noi-amanunte-despre-caminul-d...

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