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66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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Tuiton in France is $500-600 USD/year for any European citizen. And degrees are only 3 years in France.

European citizen, or EU citizen?

I think European Citizen, it's been a while since I checked but they specifically mentioned Swiss citizens in the documents that I read.

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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> While the average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days WHAT? Does that count sick days as well, or is that a myth? Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days per calendar year, plus any sick days, and thats fairly normal. Edit: Sure the absolute salaries here are lower, but the cost of living is vastly different and the social support structures and healthcare are different, too. That should definitely be kept in…

Hmm, housing in Europe is more expensive than in the US, especially per square meter. Not needing to drive a car is a preference and Americans clearly don't have the same one, it's not an economic advantage for most, and cars in US are cheaper to own. From my vacation experience groceries etc in Europe are much more expensive.

I mean they have disposable income measures that account for all that as well as welfare programs. In the end disposable incomes in the US make half of the first world look like third world:

https://data.oecd.org/hha/household-disposable-income.htm (click table, and pick gross including transfers)

You can also see % of that spent on housing, US is lower than most EU countries

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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post #248

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Right, because it's not like there are FAAG development centres or a home grown startup ecosystem in Europe. Oh, wait. The fact that you have expressed prejudice against people in WITCH companies says more about your situation than anything else, TBH.

What are WITCH companies?

https://aitechtrend.com/the-indian-witch-companies-redefinin...

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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post #93

I’m concerned about the 21% who don’t want a better quality of life. What’s going on with them?

They realize there is no such thing as free lunch. It’s an additional cost incurred by the employers that will translate into lower pay.

efficient-market hypothesis is a joke, particularly right now of all times when profit margins are soaring for businesses.

it's the old "if we pay mcdonalds employees a living wage, the cost of your hamburger will double!" canard. no, it won't.

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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post #108

It's also worth pointing out that, in many European countries (Nordics, Italy, probably Germany as well?) it's perfectly ok to just take say most of July or August off, along with everyone else. It's disruptive to the business (to the point that it's taken into account when planning things), esp. in complex companies, where a couple of key managers or architects missing means an entire initiative can stall for the du…

One company I worked for enforced vacations. If someone from work absolutely had to call you on your vacation day, ask a question or password, anything, you'd get a do-over for your day. No one ever called anyone on vacation without a damn good reason. Checking and answering emails on vacation was discouraged as well

this is actually required in some finance-centered fields in the US, because historically many frauds/ponzis/etc have fallen apart when their key players happened to be out-of-office or incommunicado for a few weeks, and a fresh set of eyes got to look at the books. "wait, that doesn't look right... hmmm..."

https://www.fdic.gov/regulations/safety/manual/section4-2.pd...

> Vacation Policies

> Banks should have a policy that requires all officers and employees to be absent from their duties for an uninterrupted period of not less than two consecutive weeks. Absence can be in the form of vacation, rotation of duties, or a combination of both activities. Such policies are highly effective in preventing embezzlements, which usually require a perpetrator’s ongoing presence to manipulate records, respond to inquiries, and otherwise prevent detection. The benefits of such policies are substantially, if not totally, eroded if the duties normally performed by an individual are not assumed by someone else.

> Where a bank’s policies do not conform to the two-week recommended absence, examiners should discuss the benefits of this control with senior management and the board of directors and encourage them to annually review and approve the bank’s actual policy and any exceptions. In cases where a two-week absent-from-duty policy is not in place, the institution should establish appropriate compensating controls that are strictly enforced. Any significant deficiencies in an institution's vacation policy or compensating controls should be discussed in the ROE and reflected in the Management component of the Uniform Financial Institutions Rating System (UFIRS). Note: Management should consider suspending or restricting an individual’s normal IT access rights during periods of prolonged absence, especially for employees with remote or high-level access rights. At a minimum, management should consider monitoring and reporting remote access during periods of prolonged absence.

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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The number of delusional Americans with strong exceptional vibes on this thread is pretty frightening.

You posted nationalistic flamebait several times in this thread. That's not ok, regardless of which country you have a problem with. Please don't post like this to HN again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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post #306

The number of delusional Americans with strong exceptional vibes on this thread is pretty frightening.

You posted nationalistic flamebait several times in this thread. That's not ok, regardless of which country you have a problem with. Please don't post like this to HN again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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post #158

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Good for you. I paid around 70 per month and it only covered the subway network between my apartment and the university. Or whole network for 85. That‘s not exactly cheap.

Beginning 2013, there is the semester tickets for students, which is twenty euros per month. Before that, 70 euros? Where were you living, Freising? Two external rings were around 50 euros at the time, and many students rent inside the (old) 4 inner rings, or the first external one if you study in Garching

Munich. And TUM is at Garching. And I paid 70. I know what I paid. It was 70 every month, year after year.

Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work

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You don't need to do _wild_ savings to retire at an age where you can enjoy your health in the US, as a tech worker. Cost of living is skyrocketing where in the US and to what degree higher than its EU equivalent? The EU has borne the brunt of inflation so I'm having a hard time seeing where EU citizens are paying less to live than Americans. > The horror. Personally, I'll take stagnant economic growth over statistic…

Ah, yes; because the only people we should consider in these discussions are Silicon Valley tech workers, who consider making $150k a year to be "on the low side". Do you ever give a thought to the vast majority of Americans who make less than you? Or even to the vast majority of tech workers who make less than you?

Is there any surprise in an American having such a narrow view where they only consider their own circumstances?
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