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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #378
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #371

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A "non-technical person" is someone who is not skilled in technology, usually IT, not someone who knows nothing about technology. The fact that there exists nobody who knows nothing about technology is a good clue that the term doesn't mean that, or else it'd be a useless term, as you pointed out > people are just “technical” in ways that IT folk don’t recognise. yes, perhaps they can work an abacus, or throw a javel…

OK so you're making my point for me. "Non-technical" is just an IT trope that we should stop using if we're not talking about employees. And indeed, nobody specified that we were talking about employees, much less FAANG employees. The bit about the abacus just underscores what I mean. It's derisive. Consider not using the word "non-technical" until you've grasped this.

seems like you've missed the point, if you think I'm making your point for you – your point seems to be pedantic and grounded in your personal opinions. Your feelings about derisiveness just underscore what I mean: the complaint is pure opinion and self-righteous indignation, devoid of substance.

the term "non-technical" is used because it is useful (notwithstanding your personal interpretation of it to mean "knows literally nothing about any technology"), so what term do you suggest we IT professionals use which conveys the same information in an equal or shorter length? Consider providing people an alternative they think is better if you personally don't like the language they're using, vs. just feeling upset and complaining.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by manderley »

ubermonkey wrote: post #420
PeterisP wrote: post #325

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> I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go That's interesting, for me, any texting (usually via whatsapp or signal) is far, far more convenient on the laptop than on the phone, so far that if I expect a longer response, I'll rather find a place to sit and pull out the laptop than try to type all of it on the phone; and for calling people also videocalls on laptop are more convenient…

Apple people, and people who have shifted away from "texting" to using some other platform (e.g. whatsapp) often shift between computer and phone for this job. But in the US at least, people outside those groups typically don't. I don't think you can (easily) send SMS from a laptop as though it were your phone. (Yes, it could be argued that the two groups in the first paragraph are actually ONE group, since Apple "te…

Messages for Android (the Google SMS app) has a great web interface.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by smugma »

mvdtnz wrote: post #264
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

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> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

Maybe it's an American thing but I don't think I know a single person who owns or uses an ipad, with the exception of rich parents who use them exclusively to distract children. I certainly don't notice a lot of ipad users in airports or trains.

Do you not know poor or working class parents? Do they not use iPads or other tablets?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by BuckRogers »

ghaff wrote: post #458
ubermonkey wrote: post #420

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Apple people, and people who have shifted away from "texting" to using some other platform (e.g. whatsapp) often shift between computer and phone for this job. But in the US at least, people outside those groups typically don't. I don't think you can (easily) send SMS from a laptop as though it were your phone. (Yes, it could be argued that the two groups in the first paragraph are actually ONE group, since Apple "te…

>I don't think you can (easily) send SMS from a laptop as though it were your phone. Sure you can--at least with Macs. I do it all the time to both Apple and non-Apple users.

Those days are over. I’ve been using Intel Unison on my 11th gen desktop for a long time now. Microsoft Phone Link also works but isn’t limited to Intel, it’s inferior but it does the job. Both work with iOS.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by smugma »

mvdtnz wrote: post #264
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

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> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

Maybe it's an American thing but I don't think I know a single person who owns or uses an ipad, with the exception of rich parents who use them exclusively to distract children. I certainly don't notice a lot of ipad users in airports or trains.

My 80+ year old dad uses his iPad+keyboard 90% of the time. He’ll use the computer when he needs to print or scan something.

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Post by gizajob »

iraqmtpizza wrote: post #448
gizajob wrote: post #440

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I mean he didn't really pioneer anything.

From whom did he steal wholesale? Also, the beatles suck wang and they ripped off elvis who ripped off blues

If you knew what you were talking about, you’d understand that they ripped off Chuck Berry and Carl Perkins.

Nujabes steals Gigi Masin's "Clouds" totally wholesale for a remix of Five Deez https://youtu.be/Yu_hqMfXIN8

It had even been stolen wholesale before by To Rococo Rot in 1999: https://youtu.be/Dzx7p2HyKik and by Bjork in 2002: https://youtu.be/A-AukyfMTKE

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Post by stetrain »

gizajob wrote: post #99
stetrain wrote: post #91

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A 12.9” iPad Pro with the keyboard case is more expensive than the equivalent 13” MacBook Pro.

The horror of Apple's pricing structure. Has annoyed me to the point where I've abandoned purchasing anything on several occasions.

Well a 12.9” iPad Pro with the keyboard case gives you basically all the same computing hardware as a 13” MacBook Pro, plus:

Better quality mini-LED display

Better/additional cameras

Touchscreen with pen support

Magnetic charging for the pen

Detachable keyboard

Cellular data option

It’s not really a surprise that the iPad can cost more. Just a shame that the App Store limitations prevent it from being as useful a software platform for many use cases.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by ChrisLTD »

The author isn’t willing to ‘declare the “use iPad to get work done” experiment dead’, but I am. If a blogger and podcaster can’t use the now 13-year-old iPad platform for his work, what hope is there for the rest of us?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by lolinder »

bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #318
jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

I end up travelling with all three but (as a web developer) I could just about pull off travelling with just my iPad. But I do want to observe that there is really no such thing as a non-technical creative person, and if there were, they would likely have a laptop, because using an iPad to fully replace a specific workflow on a laptop is, as the article suggests, eventually a more complex challenge than using a lapto…

This is very egalitarian of you, but much like the effort to turn STEM into STEAM you would strip the world of a useful distinction in order to be more inclusive.

When I say someone is technical I mean this: I could give them instructions that include the words "open a terminal/command prompt" and they would both know what I mean and not be completely freaked out at the idea. If they are non-technical, then they may use several different devices quite successfully but have only the faintest idea how they work under the hood.

Every industry has to make this distinction: an auto mechanic needs to know whether they're talking to someone who understands cars or someone who just drives them. A plumber needs to know whether they are talking to someone who understands plumbing or just knows how to flush a toilet. They may have different words to describe this distinction, but it's an important distinction for the language to have and the word we've settled on in IT is "technical".

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by nine_k »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #399
nine_k wrote: post #212

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It's simple. A laptop is a keyboard-oriented device, packing a,lot of computing power. It has the shortest battery life, and requires a desk, or at least a seat, to operate comfortably. A phone is a handheld device, one which is always on you. It necessarily has a smaller screen, no separate keyboard, and only has a decent battery life because it sleeps most of the time. It can have serious peak performance, but has…

Imagine we took this approach to cars A convertible is for sinny days, it has no roof at all, you should use another car on rainy days. A Smart is a 2 seater for trips to the city, its easy to find parking And a Hummer is for trips to the countryside, it won't fit into any parking spot in London. You should buy all three and use the right tool for the job

Welcome to the USA.
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