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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by parallaxapps »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #368
parallaxapps wrote: post #350

We're building a web development environment for iPadOS/iOS that hopes to address some of the shortcomings developing iPad-only (and iPhone, but...) Free to download, developer-tools browser built-in (Inspect Browser), Git and PHP available as an in-app purchase. Glad to answer any questions! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/webforge-ide/id6450872424

Having to buy a FOSS VCS as an add on is kind of proving the point that the iPad’s closed software ecosystem is really holding the fantastic hardware back.

Fair enough, would be nice if there were a system terminal that could install software like desktop. We'll be the first to admit that iOS's shortcomings are what triggered us to start building the apps we do.

It's true iOS software in general has a ways to match desktop capabilities, but desktops also have a bit of a head-start. We do believe iOS can get there, and hopefully exceed it in some ways.

(And in WebForge's case, we not selling just the Git CLI, but a UI and tool integrated into the rest of the IDE, so you're not /just/ paying for access to FOSS software on iPad. And yes, I know VSCode is free on desktops :) )

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

gizajob wrote: post #349
iraqmtpizza wrote: post #333

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Did Beethoven make his best stuff after he went deaf (genuinely curious; I'm inherently Beethskeptical after being Toccata-Fugue-D-minor-pilled)? Martin O'Donnell and Michael Salvatori were technologically well-resourced as far as I can tell. Why did nujabes pioneer lo-fi? I don't think there's anything fundamentally limiting about the iPad or iPhone computationally. The only limiting factor is the interface. Which i…

“iPhones and iPads are not simpler or less distracting than a typewriter” Yeah, my point. Please read my comment before negating it as matter of course. Beethoven’s ears breaking is a slightly different issue than technological limitations - his technology of ink on paper was still the same. He wasn’t playing each orchestral part one by one when he wrote his symphonies, he just couldn’t hear his main composing instru…

>Nujabes didn’t pioneer lo-fi.

What do you want? I guess you mean he only pioneered good lo-fi that wasn't Grandmaster Flash cringe. How did Niggaz Of Destruction pioneer lo-fi?

You completely skipped over my point about the internet but ok.

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Post by leon1717 »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

I'm long way out of tech community talks, but I have been highly interested in ARM powered Windows laptops. They thinner, lighter, last longer on one charge and can be really powerful. Overall, they can be more efficient than the Apple devices, since you only need one. But can someone explain what happened to ARM powered x86 development? Is there some conspiracy behind the scene like how Hydrogen powered vehicle got murdered?

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Post by markb139 »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #341
bemusedthrow75 wrote: post #320

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I’m in the UK. Yesterday I watched an eighty-plus year old woman settle her similarly elderly, physically-impaired husband into his seat on the train then get out her iPad to write an email. On my journey home in a more crowded train I saw half a dozen iPads just from where I was sitting. They are extremely useful devices for train journeys.

Only Apple iPads or are you using the term generically? I'm guessing you're in London or another major city? Similar to the parent I only ever see iPads in two places, the hands of rich kids in restaurants, and in primary schools.

We have an 87 year old who is a real fan of her iPad for staying in touch, reading and audio books. I personally use 3 ipads - I hate to throw stuff away: 1) old 9.7 pro as main device 2) old Air 2 for Zwift (this will sadly retire when updates are no longer available 3) Even older Air for connecting to FlightSim for charts

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Post by rcarr »

eggy wrote: post #352
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

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> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo as my main home and travel computer. I am upgrading my Samsung Ultra Note 20 to a Samsung Fold 5. I can work off of my Note now, and leave the Asus laptop at the place I am staying. I spent 6 months in Saudi Arabia working this way. You can run MS 365 and Dex on the phone. I use the Note to annotate photos in the field and to annotate during Zoom calls. I've typed proposals, spreadshee…

I came close to purchasing a fold this year but I find the decision to have a camera bump absolutely bizarre. If they just added a few extra millimetres to the case it would then sit flat on the table rather than rocking about, which means you could then use the pen with it properly as a note taking device. I can understand having camera bumps on phones, but it seems really weird here given that this is meant to be a phone that can also replace your tablet.

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Post by dingus9001 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #264
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

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> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

Maybe it's an American thing but I don't think I know a single person who owns or uses an ipad, with the exception of rich parents who use them exclusively to distract children. I certainly don't notice a lot of ipad users in airports or trains.

I'm a physicist in Germany, my supervisor got iPads with Apple Pencils for the entire group, we find it very useful for note taking especially since we can share screen on zoom to use them like digital whiteboards. When I give tutorials I notice at least a quarter of my students are usually using either iPads, remarkable or a windows convertible with pen support

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Post by inkyoto »

ksec wrote: post #201
jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

Which is precisely what Apple wants. They want each devices to be their own, they want you to buy them all, and to carry them all.

Buy them all – maybe.

Carry them all – hardly.

Apple has invested a lot of time and effort into making full continuity across their entire computing ecosystem actually work, which allows the user to pick only one device that is the best poised for the task at hand.

The user can switch devices as they please and carry on on another device from where they left off on the previous one. It is seamless.

Of course, the user can also choose to use all of the devices at the same time if that is what they want or it merely suits them.

Microsoft and Linux ecosystems, however, do not have the same level of completeness and continuity and convenience.

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Post by eru »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

> At least - thanks to the EU - soon they can all share the same USB-C charger.

My Macbook's MagSafe charging cable already plugs into a USB-C charger, so I already only need one charger (but two cables) for my (Android) phone and (Apple) laptop. But, of course, the bureaucrats know better than the customers and engineers.

Btw, from what I've read, Apple is contemplating removing the charging ports from their iPhones completely and going with wireless charging only. So much for banning everything but USB-C charging ports..

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Post by eru »

mvdtnz wrote: post #264
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

Maybe it's an American thing but I don't think I know a single person who owns or uses an ipad, with the exception of rich parents who use them exclusively to distract children. I certainly don't notice a lot of ipad users in airports or trains.

I own an iPad but mostly use it at home, so you wouldn't see me using it at an airport or on a train.
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