If they care so deeply about non-citizens maybe they should pull a Caracalla move and grant citizenship to everyone in their empire?
Or at least the refugees who are well qualified rocket scientists.
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#22Reaction II: The statements by the DoJ ("can't discriminate against") and Elan ("at least a green card to be hired") may both be correct...from their respective PoV's: The DoJ is technically right on the law. Vs. Elan knows that any asylees or refugees he hires will, over time, be 100X the legal and security grief that SpaceX has with green cards and citizens - due to everything from Boarder Patrol harassment to the DoD expecting a 5-inch-thick SpaceX Policy manual on how they'll keep any SpaceX employees who the DoD regards with suspicion away from anything slightly sensitive. With said manual backed up by teams of badge-checking security guards, compliance officers, and lawyers - and all on SpaceX's dime.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Explaining why this was way off-piste, the DoJ said in a statement yesterday: "Under these regulations, asylees, refugees, lawful permanent residents, US citizens and US nationals working at US companies can access export-controlled items without authorization from the US government. Therefore, these laws do not require SpaceX to treat asylees and refugees differently than US citizens or green card holders."
I am not saying the government has made a technical mistake, I'm saying the regulation is nonsense. Sneaking in spies as refugees is a fairly common strategy.
Is it really? Are there any examples we can point to?
Refugees are often dispossessed and struggling to build a new life. I guess if you want your spies to gather intelligence on what it's like to drive a cab or bus tables in your geopolitical adversaries, then it might be a great cover identity.
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Apparently a lot of people believe and support these corrupt ideologies and portray the corruption as a kind social service and they keep virtue signaling; essentially bragging about their involvement in censorship and anti-freedom hate-mongering.
It's like they expect people to thank them for ruining everything and being be embodiment of evil, insanity and corruption... These people see everything as superficial labels and make no effort to reconcile these labels with reality (quite the opposite). They only care about their social status and winning at all cost within this abstract, elaborate facade of a society they've created.
And the number of people involved appears to be substantial based on their influence. There are a lot of insane people out there and they're calling the shots.
Something changed in the last few decades. Such people would never have been given any power a few decades years ago.
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#27Just seems like a politically motivated punishment vs Elon. Out of all the corrupt things US Corps are doing, this is what they are focusing on?
From the DOJ's complaint. Seems to me like it could become quite expensive. https://www.justice.gov/media/1311656/dl?inline THEREFORE, Complainant respectfully requests: ... Order SpaceX to hire applicants who were victims of the discriminatory practices alleged in this Complaint and were qualified for employment; Order SpaceX to pay back pay, including interest, and all other relief available to each individual disc…
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am not saying the government has made a technical mistake, I'm saying the regulation is nonsense. Sneaking in spies as refugees is a fairly common strategy.
Yeah, a refugee who is also a highly qualified rocket scientist should raise some healthy suspicion at the least.