As much as I like my vacations, I would rather prefer US salary over it.
Don’t think you’d say that if you understood the median quality of life in europe vs the us
66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
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Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#12Did the survey ask if they wanted a pay cut to match European style wages?
and taxes...
Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#13NPR's recent Planet Money episode on the topic: [0].
[0] Europe gets more vacations than the U.S. Here are some reasons why. https://www.npr.org/2023/08/17/1194467863/europe-vacation-ho...
Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#14It has been shown that you need around 14 days of interrupted rest to recover from stress etc.
The European laws are not some random thing we made up because we are lazy. It is to ensure workers are well rested and ready for a new working year. Hence in long term it will also benefit employers.
Some personal anecdata: I notice an immediate difference when I come back after a long vacation. The first 2-3 months I work at top efficiency, get probably done twice as much as I would do any other month.
Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#15Did the survey ask if they wanted a pay cut to match European style wages?
That's perhaps true at tech wage levels. I think it's less true as you move down the ladder, where things like American health costs, college costs, etc, eat into things.
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#17> While the average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days WHAT? Does that count sick days as well, or is that a myth? Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days per calendar year, plus any sick days, and thats fairly normal. Edit: Sure the absolute salaries here are lower, but the cost of living is vastly different and the social support structures and healthcare are different, too. That should definitely be kept in…
> Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days
Does this include public holidays? Or do you have public holidays?
Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#18Did the survey ask if they wanted a pay cut to match European style wages?
Fair question. I think many Americans in higher income brackets would say yes; it’s just that they’d never had the option. Ditto on a 4 day work week.
Americans with higher incomes likely have very good vacation policies.
I get 25 days per year.
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#19> While the average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days WHAT? Does that count sick days as well, or is that a myth? Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days per calendar year, plus any sick days, and thats fairly normal. Edit: Sure the absolute salaries here are lower, but the cost of living is vastly different and the social support structures and healthcare are different, too. That should definitely be kept in…
> Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days Does this include public holidays? Or do you have public holidays?
Public Holidays come on top of that, pretty standard across Europe, public holidays don't count for vacation days.
Re: 66% of Americans say they want extended European-style vacation policies at work
#20> While the average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days WHAT? Does that count sick days as well, or is that a myth? Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days per calendar year, plus any sick days, and thats fairly normal. Edit: Sure the absolute salaries here are lower, but the cost of living is vastly different and the social support structures and healthcare are different, too. That should definitely be kept in…
> Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days Does this include public holidays? Or do you have public holidays?
When Europeans talk about vacation days, public holidays are never included.