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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by heisenbit »

ksec wrote: post #201
jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

Which is precisely what Apple wants. They want each devices to be their own, they want you to buy them all, and to carry them all.

> An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator... these are NOT three separate devices! And we are calling it iPhone!

Apple got there by tearing down device barriers. Now …

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Post by wiseowise »

emodendroket wrote: post #297
diffeomorphism wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Having xcode usable just with (their 350€+) keyboard seems perfectly acceptable.

For the same reason they deliberately made iphone apps look bad -- they want applications designed to work with the device to make it a good experience and not applications designed for something else shoehorned in. I see some real wisdom in this approach considering how poor some of the alternative experiences are. Ultimately why would you buy it if it's just an inferior laptop with a touchscreen that you can detach…

> Ultimately why would you buy it if it's just an inferior laptop with a touchscreen that you can detach?

Right now it’s inferior not-a-laptop with a touchscreen that you can detach and people still buy it.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by hfgjdssaghj »

Despite all the posts in this thread definitively stating that the iPad is “just for entertainment”, an illustrator ex-colleague of mine creates all her work on an iPad Pro.

She owns a home, and has 2 kids, and as far as I know has no other sources of income other than her illustrations, which are all made on her iPad.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by zuhsetaqi »

hfgjdssaghj wrote: post #313

Despite all the posts in this thread definitively stating that the iPad is “just for entertainment”, an illustrator ex-colleague of mine creates all her work on an iPad Pro. She owns a home, and has 2 kids, and as far as I know has no other sources of income other than her illustrations, which are all made on her iPad.

Thank you for pointing that out. And I think that’s exactly what the article says:

> This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done).

The iPad has some really powerful use cases, but only the ones Apple made (like illustration work).

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Post by _ph_ »

hfgjdssaghj wrote: post #313

Despite all the posts in this thread definitively stating that the iPad is “just for entertainment”, an illustrator ex-colleague of mine creates all her work on an iPad Pro. She owns a home, and has 2 kids, and as far as I know has no other sources of income other than her illustrations, which are all made on her iPad.

There is no doubt that the iPad can be a very useful device if the available software fits exactly your needs. Here obviously the pen input is the critical enabler. Thus the iPad is very popular for anyone "drawing". But beyond those fields, the usefulness drops rapidly.

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Post by anonzzzies »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

I bring a galaxy fold and xreal and a foldable keyboard. Works well for everything (I am a fulltime dev).

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Post by sfjailbird »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

> 3 full-blown computing devices

It's four now, with the smart watch.

With LTE, the smart watch can conveniently replace the phone a lot of the time. But not ALL of the time, so, again, you'll probably be carrying both.

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Post by bemusedthrow75 »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

I end up travelling with all three but (as a web developer) I could just about pull off travelling with just my iPad.

But I do want to observe that there is really no such thing as a non-technical creative person, and if there were, they would likely have a laptop, because using an iPad to fully replace a specific workflow on a laptop is, as the article suggests, eventually a more complex challenge than using a laptop. If you have one specific creative application to run that means anything it’s likely to need a traditional desktop/laptop OS scenario, because the iPadOS versions are generally still compromised.

The “non-technical person” is an IT industry trope we should retire. Very few such people really exist; people are just “technical” in ways that IT folk don’t recognise. At best it’s a fiction that IT people use to describe those who have the good sense to not care about the minutiae of computers. But in this day and age, no creative person has the opportunity to know nothing about technology.

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Post by rtpg »

makeitdouble wrote: post #171
jeroenhd wrote: post #44

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I think "iPad is a big iPod" worked great, but then they brought out the iPad Pro. That thing was supposed to be for Professionals doing Professional Work Things. After that came the iPad Mini, which is an iPad but smaller (so it's an iPod but bigger but smaller?). Weirdly enough, I don't think the iPad Pro is more than just the iPad but faster and bigger. There are tons of model-based software restrictions between t…

The biggest issue with the iPad Pro is macos. It should either run macos, or get a compatibility layer that runs macos programs, but Apple's sitting on this fence for a decade neither pushing the mac to get touch, nor letting the iPad become desktop class. > Too bad Qualcom/Samsung/Mediatek can't figure out how to compete with Apple I'd argue Microsoft did, and they're at their 9th iteration of a decently good produc…

I've said this in other places, but the biggest issue with the Surface lineup is that the Go line is ... just garbage performance wise, absolutely unusable in my experience (despite really really wanting to use it, and basically just using it for PDF annotations!). And the Pro line is good! But it has no 11-inch line and (importantly) it costs so much compared to iPads. If you are looking for a high-end tablet with some pen/pencil input, an iPad Pro 11 inch is the cheap option!

It's kind of frustrating, because I think what's happening here is that the Surface Go line makes a lot of money, and a 11-inch-but-fast thing would probably be popular but have less juicy margins.

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Post by bemusedthrow75 »

mvdtnz wrote: post #264
pavel_lishin wrote: post #154

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> You'd think depending on the person, they'd travel with EITHER their phone OR their iPad OR their laptop, depending on whether they are private people, non-technical "creatives" or IT/technical/dev folks, but instead, everybody appears to be travelling with ALL THREE devices instead I can't answer a call or text my family with my laptop while I'm on the go. I can't plug my macbook into a car to use maps or play mus…

Maybe it's an American thing but I don't think I know a single person who owns or uses an ipad, with the exception of rich parents who use them exclusively to distract children. I certainly don't notice a lot of ipad users in airports or trains.

I’m in the UK. Yesterday I watched an eighty-plus year old woman settle her similarly elderly, physically-impaired husband into his seat on the train then get out her iPad to write an email.

On my journey home in a more crowded train I saw half a dozen iPads just from where I was sitting. They are extremely useful devices for train journeys.

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