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Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by llm_nerd »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #245
llm_nerd wrote: post #243

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Pretty incidental comment, but just had to bite- "At least - thanks to the EU - soon they can all share the same USB-C charger." The EU is basically the guy that at 5am declares that the sun must soon rise or else . By the time the EU decided on their USB-C dictum, Apple -- a co-inventor and standards participant of USB-C -- had switched their laptops fully to USB-C, their desktops to USB-C, and half their pad line t…

I doubt they would have switched on the same timeframe. They dragged their feet for so long and they also fought against this regulation. And they saw it coming, so doing prep work doesn't show they wanted to change. A big part of the reason people thought Apple would change is because everyone knew these rules were coming. Also I don't think micro-USB ever got mandated , and 2010 was before lightning even existed. A…

Apple moving the iPhone to USB-C was incredibly obvious, even if you ignore the recurring noise about the EU. Again, every single bit of evidence was that Apple was switching their entire product line. Having the iPhone hanging around with the slow, dated lightning connector started to be embarrassing. Apple started bragging about the fast speeds and capabilities of USB-C on iPads, and they're going to use it as an upgrade feature on the 15.

Apple moved their laptops to USB-C in 2015. The iPad started switching in 2018. Thunderbolt 3 & 4, created by Apple and Intel use USB-C.

And yes, the EU dictum before was a voluntary agreement, and Apple provided an adapter and then went from the bad 30-pin to the much better lightning. Which is Apple's resistance to the EU saying "this is it...the eternal connector".

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by stonecharioteer »

fudged71 wrote: post #142

What if Apple released a device that was an M2/M3 MacBook, but the back side of the screen was another screen? I didn’t used to believe this was likely, but now we have the Vision Pro which has an internal and external screen. A combo laptop/tablet would be incredible, and they use the same chip so why not?

Lenovo did that, put an eink screen on the back of one of their laptops. It was Intel only, and I was looking for a Ryzen 7 or 9. Asus's Z13 and X13 Flow lines work for me here. I use an X13 Flow with a Ryzen 9 and a 3050Ti. It works amazingly. Fedora and KDE have native touch support.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by nradov »

emodendroket wrote: post #230
makeitdouble wrote: post #216

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It comes down what you actually want to do. My time spent on the iPad was defined by what I couldn't do, and it was extremely frustrating, I ended up not doing it instead of go getting the laptop from across the house. Windows is not refined nor optimized for tablet use by any measure, but it actually does the job, instead of showing a cute and extremely refined middle finger half the time. The breaking point for me…

I don’t know about anyone else but my expectations are not for my iPad to be suitable for serious development work or whatever. I want to read books and magazines, surf the Web, and watch videos. And for that it’s arguably better than a laptop. At least I find myself using it for those things much more.

Right, but the inability to do serious software development is an arbitrary limit imposed by Apple. The hardware is quite capable, but the vendor has decided that we need to use multiple different devices. It's their platform and they can do what they like with it, but as a customer those artificial limitations rankle.

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Post by noduerme »

shreyshnaccount wrote: post #249
binkHN wrote: post #237

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It's very simple for me. The three devices are rather specialized. The phone always comes with me, so that's a given. The tablet is primarily for content consumption (why use my tiny phone screen for this when my nice 10-inch tablet works perfectly?) and the laptop, well, let's me get work done. Each has a fairly specialized function and each performs that function exceedingly well. Forcing one of the devices to perf…

And that's my problem with it- if I buy a device and what to do whatever with it, who is the company to specifically stop me from doing that? I'm not asking them to design anything special for me, just allow open access to the device so that the community can build whatever we want

I'm not defending Apple here (I'm not an iPad or iPhone user) but why would you expect a tablet to substitute for a general computing platform? My "tablet" is a Boox Nova Air C that runs full Android on an e-ink screen, but I only use it to read books, sketch, and to hand-write notes. I don't let it connect to any website I have to login to, because I don't trust the software. I don't even have a keyboard for it. Once you're planning to use it for productivity, you have to carry a keyboard. At that point, what's an extra couple inches of screen size to just use a high-performance laptop?

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

if it takes me more than three seconds to edit a url i'm out. sorry but lol no

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by zol »

jll29 wrote: post #149

The key sentence here is: > This is the fundamental difference between the Mac (a platform that basically lets developers and users do anything they want) and the iPad (where if Apple doesn’t specifically allow it, it can’t be done). Apple (since Lisa/Mac, after Apple II, which had an open architecture) likes appliances and to control the user experience, so the iPad is "more Apple" than Macs are. Whenever I am waiti…

You’re even forgetting the supercomputer they’re carrying on their wrists.

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

Retric wrote: post #155
zakki wrote: post #116

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Creativity also happened in unlimited environments. That’s why there are many more use cases for computer/laptop.

Does it? I find creative solutions very rarely occur when I am actually using a computer rather than sitting back and thinking or going for a walk etc. Computers seem to be awesome tools for refining ideas yet really bad at facilitating their creation.

There is no shortage of limitations in real life or on a massively powerful desktop computer. People on desktop are not gods. Nor are they unlimited. I don't know what creative solutions you're talking about but unless we're talking about things making art with limited colors and resolutions which is only necessary because that's what the customer has, there is not much point in limiting oneself artificially unless you are truly stuck otherwise or are doing it for its own sake on some sort of metaphysical quest

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Post by ginko »

This article explains why you can’t travel with only an iPad (and a phone presumably) but doesn’t seem to bother explaining why you can’t just travel with a small laptop and phone.

What does the tablet add that makes it indispensable for travel? Just the media consumption?

I never used a tablet for an extended amount of time so maybe I’m missing something here.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

thrashh wrote: post #173
gizajob wrote: post #96

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At the same time though, limited tools can lead to creativity. I know we're in the company of coders with complex workflows, but using and understanding a limited tool well to the point where you can max it out can be better than living with a "long tail" of untapped power and productivity. Strange though, how the iPad is ostensibly a much better device given the touchscreen and keyboard (and now pencil) and yet rema…

In this case, the limitation is more on developers of iPad apps than users. It’s making developers more creative but I don’t think it’s making users more creative.

there is nothing creative about swiping on an app to update a feed of algorithmic nonsense, true. which is 99% of what people do on phones in my experience. even tablets.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by iraqmtpizza »

raincole wrote: post #120
Gigachad wrote: post #113

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The ipad is the perfect device for old people. You can't mess it up, it's extremely simple to use, has a long life span, etc. The users do not care that they can not host a webserver on it because it prevents their bank account being drained after they click the wrong advert.

My father doesn't own a PC. He never used one in his whole life. To him, using his iPad is "using a computer". iPad solves exactly ONE single problem for him: no enough screen space on his phone.

there is something inspiring about someone living boomerness to the theoretical maximum. people say young people can't get off their phones but man, boomers can't use anything else but their phones
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