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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by lancesells »

wvenable wrote: post #49
klipklop wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never understand why apple ships their iPads and Macbooks with such little ram by default. Yes I understand profit, but it really limits what these devices can do. The numbers have not really changed much in the last several years...

Apple wants strict market segmentation. Why would they sell you once device that does everything when they can sell you 2 or 3 devices for specific tasks. There might even be some logic to that with each device optimized for it's specific best purpose. It also doesn't hurt that it makes them more money.

I think Apple is very much a mega-corp who does everything to create greater profit but I'm not sure they are limiting devices to make sure you buy more. More than likely it's because iPadOS is based on iOS, and thus it's naturally more of a consumption device with all of those locked down hard limits.

IMO they should do a hard turn and make iPadOS it's own thing. Give it the benefits of iOS but with macOS flexibility. Right now, it's essentially a bigger phone.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by forrestthewoods »

oflannabhra wrote: post #18

I know Apple has a strong resistance to the two-in-one form factor, but an M-series MacBook Air with detachable screen that seamlessly transitions between macOS and iPadOS is basically my dream device.

I would also accept an iPad that can dual-boot into macOS when using a Magic Keyboard.

The fact that they don’t allow this is absurd. They basically charge $1500 for macOS. I’d probably pay that to let my iPad dual boot if they’d let me!

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by gtvwill »

dmonitor wrote: post #50
timestretch wrote: post #20

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They want to sell you two devices, and a monthly subscription to iCloud to interoperate between them.

I really don’t buy these kinds of explanations when it comes to Apple products. They would love to sell you a 2-in-1 device for twice as much. I just don’t think the UX is good enough for their standards. MacOS is poorly suited for touch interactions, and iPadOS is poorly suited for mouse cursor oriented interactions. 2-in-1s are just terrible UX experiences that Apple doesn’t want to be associated with.

Lol no they wouldn't or they'd have done it ten years ago. Apple is after your dollars they care nothing for what's better for you for productivity or any ethics outside of profit really. Their actions over the last 20 years set that in stone.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by nomel »

timestretch wrote: post #20
oflannabhra wrote: post #18

I know Apple has a strong resistance to the two-in-one form factor, but an M-series MacBook Air with detachable screen that seamlessly transitions between macOS and iPadOS is basically my dream device.

They want to sell you two devices, and a monthly subscription to iCloud to interoperate between them.

What is this in reference to? I have an iPad and a MacBook. I don't pay a subscription. I usually use Microsoft OneDrive, so I can sync between/to my non apple devices, though I usually just use airdrop.

Are you referring to extra cloud storage?

edit: A response would be appreciated, so I can understand what's going on with this comment. This is a genuine question. What subscription am I missing out on here?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by jeroenhd »

timestretch wrote: post #5

I'd buy an iPad immediately if I could run MacOS on it.

Surface tablets exist (they can run Linux but I'd stick with Windows on them). 2-in-1 laptop/tablet hybrids have also existed for a while, sold with Windows and ChromeOS but many of them work fine with standard Linux.

Some models can even become relatively competent Hackintosh, though macOS lacks proper pen drivers of course.

Samsung has Dex, which is a desktop interface for Android tablets (and phones hooked up to a dock). For a while they experimented with offering a full Ubuntu desktop, but I believe they've stopped that experiment.

Honestly, Apple seems to be the only tablet manufacturer that still tries its hardest to push professional users back to laptops. With the virtualisation support in Android 13+, I wonder how long it'll take before someone brings out the first macOS-on-Samsung-Galaxy app; various people have already run Windows 11 as a proof of concept on Pixel devices so who knows how long it'll take.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by hinkley »

oflannabhra wrote: post #18

I know Apple has a strong resistance to the two-in-one form factor, but an M-series MacBook Air with detachable screen that seamlessly transitions between macOS and iPadOS is basically my dream device.

iPad with a power connector on the side where the cover attaches, and a macbook the exact size of an iPad with no screen, just a remote desktop on the iPad.

Either data over the charging port, or low throughput over Bluetooth 5 (when is 6 due?)

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Post by katbyte »

gtvwill wrote: post #63
dmonitor wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don’t buy these kinds of explanations when it comes to Apple products. They would love to sell you a 2-in-1 device for twice as much. I just don’t think the UX is good enough for their standards. MacOS is poorly suited for touch interactions, and iPadOS is poorly suited for mouse cursor oriented interactions. 2-in-1s are just terrible UX experiences that Apple doesn’t want to be associated with.

Lol no they wouldn't or they'd have done it ten years ago. Apple is after your dollars they care nothing for what's better for you for productivity or any ethics outside of profit really. Their actions over the last 20 years set that in stone.

You are just speculating - having a 2 in 1 device is not as easy as “osx on an iPad” or “iOS on a Mac”

Until the m1 is was 100% not possible, now that they are both arm it’s possible but still would require an entirely new device class to do it justice

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