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Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#21
Someone should make a list of analogies of: if X were an iPad you couldn’t do Y.

Perhaps after a few hundred of these we could identify a higher level pattern that would “make sense” instead of being frustrating. I feel like there’s some deep philosophical underpinning or monad-like slip-through-your-fingers constraint that is maddening.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#22

I just left for a trip today and have a macbook I purchased three days ago along for the ride. Both the spouse and I were uncomfortable with only having ipads - and within 4 hours of landing it's already been the right call. It's a shame. A full desktop OS in iPad form factor is basically a holy grail.

The issue is a OS and UX designed around touch screen doesn't work well with a mouse and vice versa.

I think MS got the closest to sort of addressing it with windows 8, but everyone simply defaulted to the desktop mode rather than the touch mode (didn't help that the windows store was/is incredibly poorly done).

This is why devices like the surface pro or other 2 in 1 devices never really seemed to work out. You are either harming the tablet experience or the keyboard experience.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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I just left for a trip today and have a macbook I purchased three days ago along for the ride. Both the spouse and I were uncomfortable with only having ipads - and within 4 hours of landing it's already been the right call. It's a shame. A full desktop OS in iPad form factor is basically a holy grail.

It really is -- my iPad has the same CPU as my Mac, and it highlights just how much iPadOS lets the hardware go to waste. MacOS is better in essentially every possible way -- faster, can run whatever you like, better multitasking.

This is a new development, and only on the most expensive versions. Historically, the iPad has always been running an iPhone-class processor.

I'd bet that Apple is still shipping 5x-10x as many A-series iPads as M-series iPads.

I'd love to be able to run a more capable OS on an M-series iPad, but not if that means all the rest have a worse experience. Maybe Apple needs to release an iPadOS Pro to go along with the M-series chips?

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#24

I know Apple has a strong resistance to the two-in-one form factor, but an M-series MacBook Air with detachable screen that seamlessly transitions between macOS and iPadOS is basically my dream device.

The iPad pro is basically this, but just needs to be able to swap when you hook up the Magic Keyboard.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#25

"For many years, I tried very hard to travel with only an iPad. (Why bring two devices? And I’m not leaving my iPad at home.)" I bet they means three devices, since I would wager they does not leave theys "more expensive than a Windows-based laptop" iPhone at home.

The hardware in the iPhone is probably powerful enough to run all software he'd run on his Mac if it were similarly unhampered by iOS.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a silly thing to say. macOS is specifically designed for use with a mouse and keyboard. iOS is specifically designed for use with a touch screen. Adapting either one to work with the other would only make it worse.

MacOS allows me to run any software I want. It has a terminal, and allows me to run scripts. It has a shared file system and offers true multi-tasking. You can already run some iOS apps in MacOS. I'd like a single computer where I can switch between mobile / pencil usage and desktop keyboard / mouse usage.

That's exactly what I have with a convertible Chromebook. Super Snappy ChromeOS for web browsing. It can run Android apps, or stream them from my phone. Flip it around and it's a BIG tablet. 15.6" 4k screen. Going back into computer mode I can run full blown Linux, very quickly via Crouton or virtualized slightly less quick with official Crostini. Can also do a lot of the terminal stuff directly in the ChromeOS shell. In either Linux environment I can emulate Windows via QEMU/KVM. It's as fast as native in Crouton, again a bit slower in Crostini. Lightweight,long battery life, charges over USB-C will fast charge my phone and interfaces seamlessly with the phone for tethering that doesn't use hotspot data and doing messages notifications, etc.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#27

I know Apple has a strong resistance to the two-in-one form factor, but an M-series MacBook Air with detachable screen that seamlessly transitions between macOS and iPadOS is basically my dream device.

The problem with a convertible MacBook is that you'd have to move the battery to behind the display, at which point you're really just making an iPad that can be attached to a keyboard dock and run macOS.

I think the latter is a plausible evolution of the iPad Pro.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#29
I'm also looking for a two in one, a tablet that can be a laptop. The best I've found is a surface, and I think dell has some two in ones too. The surface feels like the right call because it's just light enough to be a powerful tablet, but not so power hungry that it's stationary. I think they've hit the right balance here.

It's a shame this form factor isn't so common, and what would be perfect for a vacation would be a Chromebook. It's browser centric which is 98% of vacation related activities.

Re: Giving up the iPad-only travel dream

#30

I always found the 'multitasking' features on iPad OS to be really poor. It suspends things in the background so aggressively that any kind of switching back and forth between Safari tabs (to and from a Github Codespace) is just non-feasible. And the lack of browser dev tools without tethering to a 'real' computer.

Even Final Cut Pro on iPad requires staying in the foreground during exports.

Never understand why apple ships their iPads and Macbooks with such little ram by default. Yes I understand profit, but it really limits what these devices can do. The numbers have not really changed much in the last several years...
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