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The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #7

I would rather be the subject of behavioral advertising and keep privately encrypted comms than the other way around, but apparently the EU has other ideas.

That means that we're living in your ideal world then... :)

Right now, behavioral ads are on their last legs, and privately encrypted comms are still around. Proposals to limit encryption are being thrown around, but they are met with serious resistance, and none of them are currently close to implementation.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #7

I would rather be the subject of behavioral advertising and keep privately encrypted comms than the other way around, but apparently the EU has other ideas.

End to end encryption can be implemented in open source protocols. More than that - you can be sure it's actually there instead trusting marketing.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

all advertising was (and is) always behavioral

Not to the extent where advertisers had this level of fine-grained information about their target though, which is the whole point of contention.

they always did, to the extent that was allowed by the tech of the time

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #2

This is a wonderful start. Here's hoping it catches on outside of the EU as well!

I really wish Canada would grow a pair, and stand up to the big social media platforms -- especially in the light of the latest shenanigans with the availability of / paying for news. Whichever side of that debate you fall on, you have to admit that meta et al are in a position to strong-arm a country and have an impact on its laws. That's a terrible precedent, already having played out in Australia.

Anything that chokes off the flow of money via advertising to these companies is a two-tier win in my book.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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The EU's war is on US companies. They wouldn't be playing fast and loose with these regulations if their home born companies were the ones getting disadvantaged.

They push draconian surveillance laws then claim sainthood when they go after Facebook.

I guess you can hate Facebook et al and welcome this stuff but it's hard to deny how these laws are basically trade barriers aimed at the US tech industry.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry Yes, but what are the negative effects?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HkASndEXo&t=40s [SFW]

Huge fan. Thanks for reminding me :)

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #21

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What do you mean "no reason"? The reason is that the user's data privacy rights come first. If interests collide, privacy must come out on top. I'm curious on how you could have missed this ideological position that powers those regulations after years of headlines after headlines about the topic.

europeans did not go to the streets because they were afraid of advertising. politicians ran with it because it sounds good instead they go to the streets because of the awful economy, unemployment, inaccessible housing. Still waiting for a pan-european affordable housing regulation (not gonna happen because EU is run by the boomers)

Housing is a local, or at least federal matter. EU is about interstate commerce. The advertising/consent regulations are about commerce so it makes sense. Pan-EU housing regulations wouldn't as those are typically in the domain of each country/locality.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #22
post #3

... for no reason , to no effect, except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry

Found the online marketing person! And there are plenty of reasons.

if you re in tech your salary depends on advertising money somewhere along the chain

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to the extent where advertisers had this level of fine-grained information about their target though, which is the whole point of contention.

they always did, to the extent that was allowed by the tech of the time

And the tech changed and suddenly there was the privacy issue. That's... the whole point.

Quantitative changes enabled by technology can present qualitative problems.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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post #7

I would rather be the subject of behavioral advertising and keep privately encrypted comms than the other way around, but apparently the EU has other ideas.

Yeah.

Having thought about this long and hard, lucrative behavioral advertising seems like a fair price to pay for an open, free (as in beer), internet.

I fear this type of regulation will only serve to make the internet become much less equitable.

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