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The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Post by seydor »

EMIRELADERO wrote: post #15
seydor wrote: post #3

... for no reason , to no effect, except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry

What do you mean "no reason"? The reason is that the user's data privacy rights come first. If interests collide, privacy must come out on top. I'm curious on how you could have missed this ideological position that powers those regulations after years of headlines after headlines about the topic.

europeans did not go to the streets because they were afraid of advertising. politicians ran with it because it sounds good

instead they go to the streets because of the awful economy, unemployment, inaccessible housing. Still waiting for a pan-european affordable housing regulation (not gonna happen because EU is run by the boomers)

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Post by seydor »

rolodato wrote: post #20
seydor wrote: post #3

... for no reason , to no effect, except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry

Good riddance. Hope it extends beyond the EU as well.

it will not, because that is unsustainable. but we can shove our head even deeper in the sand and hope so

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Post by master-lincoln »

brap wrote: post #4
seydor wrote: post #3

... for no reason , to no effect, except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry

EU is a huge fan of shooting itself in the foot with useless regulations, unable to think 1-2 steps ahead. Waiting for someone to tell you why "the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry" is actually a good thing in their view.

Isn't the destruction of advertising (not just online) a good thing? It's skewing markets by creating demands that were not there before, but only for the big players who can afford to be in peoples faces everywhere. Advertising is often misinforming (or not informing) people about the products/services. It promotes a throwaway society where resources are wasted.

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Post by esafak »

someplaceguy wrote: post #8
seydor wrote: post #3

... for no reason , to no effect, except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry

> except the destruction of the entire eu online advertising industry Yes, but what are the negative effects?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4HkASndEXo&t=40s [SFW]

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Post by seydor »

mdhb wrote: post #17
seydor wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i mentioned the destruction of the eu advertising market. as a consequence tech in europe remains unfunded and therefore nonexistent (because the silicon valley machine literally runs on advertising money)

Almost like they are trying to find alternative funding models for the web here… I fail to see that as anything other than a positive.

hint: there aren't . the web is like all the media before it

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

asu_thomas wrote: post #23
JohnFen wrote: post #2

This is a wonderful start. Here's hoping it catches on outside of the EU as well!

Why would it? The EU is just protecting its own member states' IT industries and its own interest in undermining encrypted communications.

> The EU is just protecting its own partner states' IT industries

Doesn’t the GDPR go back to a largely grassroots effort, including from members of the Pirate Party phenomenon that people initially scoffed at? I have no doubt that there has been local IT lobbying, but one cannot deny some level of true popular will.

Re: The EU's war on behavioral advertising

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Post by mustafa_pasi »

jklinger410 wrote: post #19
JohnFen wrote: post #2

This is a wonderful start. Here's hoping it catches on outside of the EU as well!

What about this free market that everyone talks about? I don't think there are any protections around the reasonable expectation of privacy from a private industry perspective in the US. If you use the internet, or an app, you must protect yourself. I assume everyone is a capitalist, so wouldn't adding laws here somehow subsidize and therefore tarnish the market?

Does it impinge on your personal freedom, if the government decides to put up special privacy protections for groups it deems too vulnerable?
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