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The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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It's interesting to me the differences between countries. In South Africa, the first way you get your final grade 12 results (which are used for university admissions) is via the newspapers. Every year, everyone's grades are published in a massive list everyone can see.

(Later on you do get an actual certificate too.)

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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Yeah and then still claim that it can't be traced to the person, where the whole point of the pixel is to lead it back to their fb profile. The spokesperson is either being fed false information or blatantly lying. At least someone in the organization is.

This is overly harsh. The spokesperson assumed they were being accused of abusing their position of running the SAT by actually sending real SAT scores directly to Facebook, so they responded accordingly. Instead they were abusing their position of trust to get students to enter the scores again themselves and sending that . Still not great, but not a lie on the spokesperson's part, just a misunderstanding of what wa…

At best it's incompetence/lack of due diligence.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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There is absolutely no reason for a public org to send this data to FB or Tiktok. Even if in your opinion "it's just search". There are 2 reasons they are doing that, they actually think it's valuable data for tracking, analytics & finding similar profiles on sociale media; and that makes the concern valid. Or they just didn't think about it, and send over as much data as possible

Its not a public org though. - its non-profit. I'm not a fan of sharing search data either, but I think its unfair to put extra shame on College Board.

If it's the org managing the student's GPA it's public since it's dealing with public information citizens are unable to opt out off, independent of it's legal entity.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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It's interesting to me the differences between countries. In South Africa, the first way you get your final grade 12 results (which are used for university admissions) is via the newspapers. Every year, everyone's grades are published in a massive list everyone can see. (Later on you do get an actual certificate too.)

Well, that massive list is anonymous, since only register numbers of students and their grades are published.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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What makes a spokesperson lying “capitalism?” One can think of lying spokespersons like good ol’ Baghdad Bob operating outside of a business context.

The College Board is a financial scam ( https://www.therealcollegeboard.org/ ) but arguably its flaws aren't technically Capitalist. Facebook and TikTok are, though. There's no reason for a school test-taking website to partner with Facebook and TikTok accept because these companies are providing some service (of dubious value, like College Board itself!) to drive their own profit. https://www.therealcollegeboard.org…

The College Board is a perfectly legal enterprise, and how could you know their reasons for how they do things? Besides, they are a "not-for-profit" organization so we know for a fact that they don't want profit.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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post #94

It's interesting to me the differences between countries. In South Africa, the first way you get your final grade 12 results (which are used for university admissions) is via the newspapers. Every year, everyone's grades are published in a massive list everyone can see. (Later on you do get an actual certificate too.)

Well, that massive list is anonymous, since only register numbers of students and their grades are published.

That was a shock to me because it used to actually be everyone's names.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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This seems like mostly clickbait? They don't actually share your scores, they share your search history? If you score a 2400 but search for colleges that accept 1600 then fb gets the 1600 number, not your real number of 2400. I would rather fb get nothing, but as far as data sharing and ad tracking goes, this seems fairly standard. The only surprising part of this story is that they managed to find a stupid pr person…

> If you score a 2400 but search for colleges that accept 1600 But most people won't be doing that. For most people, it'll send their actual scores most of the time. Saying that "they don't send your actual score" is the kind of sophistry that's technically correct but also wildly inaccurate in actual cases.

Are you sure? Maybe most people will search with aspirational scores

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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Its not a public org though. - its non-profit. I'm not a fan of sharing search data either, but I think its unfair to put extra shame on College Board.

If it's the org managing the student's GPA it's public since it's dealing with public information citizens are unable to opt out off, independent of it's legal entity.

That's now how public organizations are defined in the slightest....

You can complain that the way the world works is broken & should be fixed, but you can't redefine words to make your argument.

Re: The College Board website shares GPAs, SAT scores with TikTok and Facebook

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Exactly. Hacker News is the same way. HN does not send your HN handle information to any third party. That said, your posts and comments include certain metadata, including your HN handle and a link to account metadata as per the privacy policy. This data is public and may be accessed by third parties.

1. Search queries are not metadata. 2. Why is sharing metadata with unknown arbitrary 3rd parties OK? Not all metadata is or should be public.

My point, poorly made, is that the statements made by companies sharing this data don’t mean what they appear to at first reading.

Even in the silly HN example, you can analyze referrer data and build profiles of people, without any cooperation on HNs part.

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