~ My average sleep efficiency (time asleep vs time in bed) according to Apple Watch & Oura is ~85%, meaning to get my 7h30 of sleep to feel rested I will stay more than 10h in bed. That sucks! 85% of 10h is 8.5h :) To get 7.5h with 85% you need ~8.8h in bed.
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#22Since the OP continues to use them, am I to understand there is no better alternative that is comparable on the comfort/ease-of-use/cost-effectiveness axis with these devices?
The idea of making health decisions based on bad data makes me queasy, but do people who continue to use these devices despite knowing their inaccuracy still recommend their use because one shouldn't let "the perfect be the enemy of the good"?
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True, failed to mention that I never drink caffeine after 2pm. I never understood how some people can have a coffee in the evening and go to bed just fine.
>I never understood how some people can have a coffee in the evening and go to bed just fine By building tolerance and genetics.
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#24there is interesting historical research, which pops up from time to time, showing that people in many cultures before the advent of electric lighting commonly slept in two phases -- about 4 hours, a couple hours awake, and about 4 hours. i think it gets too strong when people claim that this is "natural" or "better" or something. but the historical evidence suggests it's at least "okay", and if you sometimes wake up…
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#26Biggest improvement to sleep quality I had was giving up caffeine, which isn't mentioned in this article. I'm inclined to bet, most people in the west who self report suffering form poor sleep, can narrow it down to caffeine over-consumption, since it leads you slowly to this march of death burning the candle at both ends where you drink coffee to compensate for poor sleep and you sleep poorly because of too much caf…
True, failed to mention that I never drink caffeine after 2pm. I never understood how some people can have a coffee in the evening and go to bed just fine.
If you're that worried about sleep quality, it's baffling you have not tried cutting out caffeine altogether
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I never understood how some people can have a coffee in the evening and go to bed just fine By building tolerance and genetics.
Regarding genetics, are there enzymes that some people lack, and that they can take to digest caffeine better?
If only there was a short-acting stimulant and antidote available as a combo..
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#30Biggest improvement to sleep quality I had was giving up caffeine, which isn't mentioned in this article. I'm inclined to bet, most people in the west who self report suffering form poor sleep, can narrow it down to caffeine over-consumption, since it leads you slowly to this march of death burning the candle at both ends where you drink coffee to compensate for poor sleep and you sleep poorly because of too much caf…
You are overgeneralizing from your own experience. It happens to some but most people with sleep problems do test if reducing caffeine fixes their problem.
You'd be surprised how many people are oblivious to this.