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Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by mattellsworth »

I also got diagnosed late last year. I had a great experience with Shimmer and recommend it to any friends/acquaintances that get diagnosed.

It's fairly normal practice to get an ADHD coach with or without also seeing a therapist. Main factors seem to be money, how severely ADHD is affecting that person's life, and whether they have a mix of anxiety/depression with it.

Having this type of service available is really important imo. You can try out multiple coaches if you need to, and there's a system built around the experience to hopefully encourage consistent positive outcomes. With all the baggage that "medicine" comes with in the US, it seems like a positive to have this type of coaching exist outside of the medical system.

My two cents as someone going through a late in life diagnosis at 39.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by tapland »

sph wrote: post #156
tapland wrote: post #132

The landing page has way too much text. I don't see how the average person with ADHD would get through it to the service offered

Indeed, I have ADHD and it's evening now, so I got no meds in me. With my hamster brain, I saw a wall of text at the top of this page, clicked the link, a wall of text on the landing page, even the title is too much information to digest. I literally have no idea what this thing does, and I won't allocate any effort in diving deeper. Focus is precious, I don't give that away easily. I don't want to make assumptions,…

What I read was that the founder and author of this thread got diagnosed a year ago and instantly got to building the service.

I also got diagnosed as an adult but though things started making sense when I went through the evaluations it has taken years of conscious thought to unravel my difficulties and even start to see what I should do and avoid doing because of it.

Personally I just can't find myself trusting a service like this unless it has strong connections to ongoing research or as part of treatment by professionals.

But I could really use a coach. I need someone to help me stick to and maintain my to-to list and/or help me write reminders but I'd really like them to really understand ADHD and be able to spot thoughts and behaviors and help me do well.

I've found some great paycholigists can do this, and I think it's very very rare among the rest of the population.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by Unfrozen0688 »

xormapmap wrote: post #120
Unfrozen0688 wrote: post #26

I feel like I may have it, but I am so down in a hole I just want others to do the boring shit like cooking and cleaning and billing for me and I can just work & play. I have tried for years alredy. Is there a solution for that?

> I just want others to do the boring shit like cooking and cleaning and billing for me and I can just work & play. Congratulations, you are just like every other human on the planet. We really need to stop passing off regular human traits as medical disorders.

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Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by hvaldimir »

Not impressed after spending a few minutes on your website.

First off - What happens with my information after your quiz? "Please enter your e-mail. This question is required.* Question 5 of 5"

I suggest you to inform the user about data-policy before the User clicks "OK".

Another problem on your website is this; "Password must be at least 6 characters".

You should follow best practices when it comes to password policy requirements. I mean, you are working with sensitive information right?

For anyone who reads this comment and have ADHD, you should check out NICE | The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence before you consider giving money to random people on the internet claiming all kinds of psudoscience..

Link - https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng87/chapter/Recommendation...

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by thenerdhead »

mollybee wrote: post #209
thenerdhead wrote: post #138

I see a hundred of these companies that apparently "specialize in ADHD". I see them all in the same light unfortunately of profiteering in various ways around the incompetent medical system the US has. Is this a better price than a licensed therapist? Yes Is this a more practical solution than what you might get? Yes But it just feels ethically wrong to promote your services to people who are "undiagnosed" or "think…

You're making a lot of assumptions here. Let's tackle them one by one: 1. "I see them all in the same light unfortunately of profiteering in various ways around the incompetent medical system the US has." You're right, it is unfortunate that you see them all as profiteering off of the failures of the American medical system. As you've noted, the issue here is your choice not to look for nuance or independently evalua…

If you look at their footer on their main page you will see that “teens” is the next upcoming service.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by thenerdhead »

pxc wrote: post #257
thenerdhead wrote: post #138

I see a hundred of these companies that apparently "specialize in ADHD". I see them all in the same light unfortunately of profiteering in various ways around the incompetent medical system the US has. Is this a better price than a licensed therapist? Yes Is this a more practical solution than what you might get? Yes But it just feels ethically wrong to promote your services to people who are "undiagnosed" or "think…

> But it just feels ethically wrong to promote your services to people who are "undiagnosed" or "think they have" ADHD. You don't have to 'actually have' ADHD (whatever that means!) to benefit from advice, habits, or practices typically leveraged by ADHDers. You just have to have a similar enough struggle that works in a similar enough way that those techniques help you somewhat. Whether you have ADHD matters way les…

Good points, but when you say it is less practical, how do you figure? More people than ever are using social media and AI to self-diagnose. So much that the surgeon general issued an advisory on mental health and scholars like Jonathan Haidt have been sounding off the alarms in the last few years.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2023/05/23/surgeon-general-is...

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by cryophobic »

tapland wrote: post #132

The landing page has way too much text. I don't see how the average person with ADHD would get through it to the service offered

I'm unsure if you know this, but everyone with ADHD responds differently to different stimuli.

I have ADHD and am, and always have been, a reader and writer. Once I get locked in on something, I have trouble refocusing my attention elsewhere.

I work with individuals with ADHD who regularly point out that I have provided too much text for them to process.

We each have our own unique challenges in this, and recognizing that helps strengthen the community as a whole IMO.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by rchaud »

esharte wrote: post #84
christalwang wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement: unlike most types of therapy, coaching is goal-oriented / solution-oriented and requires the member to be in a good enough space to want to look into the future & put in the work. Often members use therapy / medication in tandem with coaching. Coaching works least effectively for those with severe comorbidities like depression/anxiety/bi-polar that are…

"Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement" Meaning "if our product doesn't work, it's really your fault"

That applies to everything where you are being trained in something. My instructor can give me a practice exam, but can't take the real exam for me. A fitness trainer can go grocery shopping with me, but cannot force me to eat healthy.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by rchaud »

offbrands wrote: post #256

“ Shimmer was born from my personal frustration when I was diagnosed last year & wasn’t able to find an affordable, quality ADHD coach. True hyperfocus mode,” Having a diagnosis that you have a recognized mental health disorder and then being able to, in less than a year, have a full platform launched and ready to go should make anyone who struggles with ADHD pause and ask how and question everything. I’ve had ADHD m…

> Having a diagnosis that you have a recognized mental health disorder and then being able to, in less than a year, have a full platform launched and ready to go should make anyone who struggles with ADHD pause and ask how and question everything

Agreed. This 'origin story' reads a bit too much like it's written for a VC pitch deck. Theranos of course famously build their 'product' on the basis of the CEO's fear of needle pricks.

Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web

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Post by offbrands »

rchaud wrote: post #269
offbrands wrote: post #256

“ Shimmer was born from my personal frustration when I was diagnosed last year & wasn’t able to find an affordable, quality ADHD coach. True hyperfocus mode,” Having a diagnosis that you have a recognized mental health disorder and then being able to, in less than a year, have a full platform launched and ready to go should make anyone who struggles with ADHD pause and ask how and question everything. I’ve had ADHD m…

> Having a diagnosis that you have a recognized mental health disorder and then being able to, in less than a year, have a full platform launched and ready to go should make anyone who struggles with ADHD pause and ask how and question everything Agreed. This 'origin story' reads a bit too much like it's written for a VC pitch deck. Theranos of course famously build their 'product' on the basis of the CEO's fear of n…

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