If scientists and engineers manage to implement autonomous cars and robots that can do basic human tasks like clean, wait and take care of the sick and elderly we will wake up in a brand new world. It will put a lot of stress on the basics of society, such as democracy and having to work for a salary.
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#12For jobs that pay just enough to not qualify for food stamps or Medicaid but not enough to buy food medicine and rent.
Previously it was more possible to earn little enough to qualify for benefits and live if not well but the numbers have become misaligned and don't account for differences between expensive and cheaper parts of states.
Given present concerns the situation doesn't change appreciably unless you go all in on automation implement UBI or both.
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#13"too few people for all the jobs, for the most part" - Are wages going up? "But almost everywhere else needs people. Badly. Across retail, restaurants, manufacturing, trades, and on and on, companies are struggling to hire. " - Wow sounds like an exciting star trek future that I cant wait to be part of! "labor became more expensive than capital" - So wages must be going up right? "In essence, the authors show that fo…
And what's with using the research scientists who authored Transformers as examples of surplus middle management? Google generated 1.4M per employee in 2022, second only to Apple. Armchair engineers will say they could do as well with a handful of employees, but if this is "low productivity" then sign me up.
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#14As impressive as AI is and what it can do. I've felt the same way in my last job. It was almost there; it was almost good enough such that we could almost ship the project but we didn't. GPT3.5 was not good enough, GPT4 seemed like it was good enough in terms of accuracy but it was too slow and we were getting throttled like crazy. I lost my job over it. When I was worried about AI taking my job, I didn't picture it…
Our use case was that we needed to consider information from thousands of pages of documents to answer customer questions. I let GPT decide where to look based on content tables of the documents (thankfully each section was not more than ~500 words) and only fetched information from the relevant sections to let GPT answer the user's question. GPT3.5 was fast enough to be usable but often inaccurate; it would ignore s…
(I'm making my own and agree with you, it works)
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#15Very interesting article. IMHO a key factor in how the world changes in the next 10-20 years will be how far the current wave of AI, based on neural networks can go. If scientists and engineers manage to implement autonomous cars and robots that can do basic human tasks like clean, wait and take care of the sick and elderly we will wake up in a brand new world. It will put a lot of stress on the basics of society, su…
Also, doing stuff in the real world is all about sensors. Progress on integrating millions of sensors into a robot has been slow.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Capital's willingness to ride out labor shortages without increasing wages seems to have become substantially greater in the last couple of decades. TIRED: labor shortage -> wages rise! WIRED: labor shortage -> y'all work harder for maybe a bit of overtime or maybe not, and we'll just absorb the complaints about customer service and product quality. Those damn employees aren't getting a penny more!
Wages are rising: https://www.axios.com/2023/07/12/real-wage-gains-inflation
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#17Very interesting article. IMHO a key factor in how the world changes in the next 10-20 years will be how far the current wave of AI, based on neural networks can go. If scientists and engineers manage to implement autonomous cars and robots that can do basic human tasks like clean, wait and take care of the sick and elderly we will wake up in a brand new world. It will put a lot of stress on the basics of society, su…
The real world has many trillions of parameters. Also, doing stuff in the real world is all about sensors. Progress on integrating millions of sensors into a robot has been slow.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real world has many trillions of parameters. Also, doing stuff in the real world is all about sensors. Progress on integrating millions of sensors into a robot has been slow.
Don't think a robot needs millions of sensors. 90% of the information that a human uses comes through the eyes - so just 2 sensors. Really in terms of doing most types of work all a robot would need is vision and hearing.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real world has many trillions of parameters. Also, doing stuff in the real world is all about sensors. Progress on integrating millions of sensors into a robot has been slow.
Don't think a robot needs millions of sensors. 90% of the information that a human uses comes through the eyes - so just 2 sensors. Really in terms of doing most types of work all a robot would need is vision and hearing.