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https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Peat
I think there's some important things to say about neuroscience and ADHD, but I don't think Ray Peat is the authority you want to quote about this subject.
Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
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Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like the same bait and switch Dr. K (Healthy Gamer) did. Put a real MD on the poster, and once they sign up hook your customers with people with 3 weeks of "professional training".
We definitely are not trying to pass as a medical service. However, we do our due diligence to make sure we have medical staff on board to advise us on our protocols, services, train our staff, supervise our staff, and to stand in if there is any escalation needed. We hope it's clear Dr. Anil himself is not coaching and very happy to make things more clear by adding his title to the front of the card.
> We definitely are not trying to pass as a medical service.
> HSA/FSA-eligible.
Try harder?
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#83The on-boarding workflow felt sycophantic and pandering. When you ask me to express my vulnerabilities and respond with statements like:
> You're in the right place! 41% of Shimmer members rated 5 for the impact ADHD has on their lives, just like you. Shimmer is the newest way to work with your ADHD: You'll build skills and implement systems that are catered to YOUR life.
or
> Thank you for sharing. Shimmer members work on similar challenges and 86% have improved within 3 months.
it evokes an image in my mind of a guy holding open a trench coat saying "I got what you need."
At the same time, as someone who has spent a lot of time developing insight into the spectrum of disorders around emotional and internal regulation trying to understand my own life and mind, the workflow was helpful. It showed me that I'm not the target audience for your product. That's OK though, different strokes for different folks.
Best of luck and I hope you're able to support people and do good in the world. :+1:
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#84I’ve been diagnosed since I was a kid and I will say this is interesting. I’m glad it’s not just another AI tool claiming it can “solve ADHD” (especially the chat bots I see popping up, which I’ve tried and they aren’t good). I’ve never considered coaching seriously in the past… but can you share more about what sort of folks coaching works for and what sorts it doesn’t? And what sort of outcomes or stories you’ve se…
Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement: unlike most types of therapy, coaching is goal-oriented / solution-oriented and requires the member to be in a good enough space to want to look into the future & put in the work. Often members use therapy / medication in tandem with coaching. Coaching works least effectively for those with severe comorbidities like depression/anxiety/bi-polar that are…
"Coaching works best for those who are ready for forward movement"
Meaning "if our product doesn't work, it's really your fault"
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not on that team, but: that doesn't meet my experience in the slightest. My parents are great, and I didn't have any significant childhood trauma. In retrospect, my symptoms went back to when I was a wee little lad, well before I had to deal with any of life's curveballs.
Well, that theory says that typically memories of traumatic events are repressed and show up only in form of symptoms like ADHD. Your "claim" that you had a non-traumatic childhood (and your parents did neither?) does not invalidate that theory. It's interesting how I was downvoted. I am just curious, I am not saying one or the other is "true". I have no idea, I am not a professional. However, I do think it is a rele…
The way the theory is phrased makes it unscientific and the HN community in general tends to be especially critical when that occurs.
I also want to add that the scientific-ness of it or not doesn't invalidate it as an explanatory device in your personal journey - they are on orthogonal axes.
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#86It’s a dessert topping and a floor wax!
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks like the same bait and switch Dr. K (Healthy Gamer) did. Put a real MD on the poster, and once they sign up hook your customers with people with 3 weeks of "professional training".
Just recently found about his youtube channel and have found his content to be quite beneficial. Did not know that he'd done this. Can I read about this anywhere? There seems to be a lot of folks who are critical about him.
I don't know about the details, but even simply from watching HealthyGamerGG videos (which are quite good), the way he pushes his group counseling service(?) using essentially volunteers(??) who are licensed through him does seem suspect. Guess enshittification applies even to internet individuals.
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
We definitely are not trying to pass as a medical service. However, we do our due diligence to make sure we have medical staff on board to advise us on our protocols, services, train our staff, supervise our staff, and to stand in if there is any escalation needed. We hope it's clear Dr. Anil himself is not coaching and very happy to make things more clear by adding his title to the front of the card.
> We definitely are not trying to pass as a medical service. > HSA/FSA-eligible. Try harder?
healthcare and medicine aren't synonymous
psychologists, mental health therapists, physical therapists, occupational therapists, pharmacists, and so on, do not practice medicine - but the services they provide can be paid for with HSA and FSA money
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shimmer is NOT clinical and we do NOT provide licensed medical services. We are most definitely not trying to substitute a real doctor. Full stop. We hope that is clear in all of our communications and website, and do NOT try to obscure that. However, we do a lot of work to work with the right experts (which include clinicians, psychiatrists, etc.) to ensure what we do it safe, follows best practice, is science-backe…
> Shimmer is NOT clinical and we do NOT provide licensed medical services In which case I personally find the phrase "All of our Shimmer ADHD Coaches are licensed or certified mental health professionals" to be quite deceptive.
please elaborate on which licenses and certifications they have. Can I confirm those credentials, how will I know if they are industry recognized and respected instead of your own in-house certification.
Re: Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not on that team, but: that doesn't meet my experience in the slightest. My parents are great, and I didn't have any significant childhood trauma. In retrospect, my symptoms went back to when I was a wee little lad, well before I had to deal with any of life's curveballs.
Well, that theory says that typically memories of traumatic events are repressed and show up only in form of symptoms like ADHD. Your "claim" that you had a non-traumatic childhood (and your parents did neither?) does not invalidate that theory. It's interesting how I was downvoted. I am just curious, I am not saying one or the other is "true". I have no idea, I am not a professional. However, I do think it is a rele…
Maybe there's just overlap between CPTSD symptoms and ADHD, not that they're literally the same thing.