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So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

IRC…? ICQ was mostly 1:1 conversations.

ICQ had rooms as well

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#112

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Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

As a very technically able person, can you get into more detail on what is "utterly insufferable"? I hopped the boat in 2016 so I am probably blinded by using it from pretty much the start.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#113

The funny thing about Twitter users is how in real life you can tell who is addicted to Twitter from the way they talk. Every conversation is a Mexican standoff with the Twitter addict as they try to bait you into exposing your Silo against their Silo. Its infuriating to deal with this type of addict because the rest of society is just trying to coexist while the Twitter addict is trying to root out imaginary threats…

Silo? Not familiar with the term. Googling I found "Silo Mentality" (="resists sharing information and resources with other people or departments within the organisation.") but I don't see exactly how that applies here

Perhaps echochamber is likely what they meant?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#114
post #6

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. Discord's fine for what it is, but it's also a fundamentally different thing than social media or forums or a support-site. Projects that try to funnel everything onto Discord are (a) losing anyone who thinks joining an 800 person chatroom doesn't sound fun,…

We use Discord at my company. It was a compromise between us graybeards wanting email + issue tracker only and the new people wanting... Discord.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#115
post #6

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. Discord's fine for what it is, but it's also a fundamentally different thing than social media or forums or a support-site. Projects that try to funnel everything onto Discord are (a) losing anyone who thinks joining an 800 person chatroom doesn't sound fun,…

The problem as I see it, as a heavy Discord user as well as a mod and admin for some moderately large communities, isn't that Discord isn't searchable - it's just the people are generally too lazy to do so. Often (and by often, I mean _daily_) I see people join a server, skip past the FAQ channel, and ask the same question the person above them asked. Said user would have had their answer had they:

- read the FAQ

- used the search

- scrolled up just a little bit

I don't disagree that the walled garden of Discord could use search improvements, but the users themselves bear much of the responsibility for the perceived distaste of the tool and I have yet to see a solution that isn't perceived as "mean" when people are directed, even gently, to try the aforementioned methods for seeking an answer.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#116

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Silo? Not familiar with the term. Googling I found "Silo Mentality" (="resists sharing information and resources with other people or departments within the organisation.") but I don't see exactly how that applies here

Perhaps echochamber is likely what they meant?

I meant silo. Its not an echo chamber that they can disconnect from its a purposefully built online collection of thoughts and principles that they guard and collect to the point that its the driving force of their life.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#117

The funny thing about Twitter users is how in real life you can tell who is addicted to Twitter from the way they talk. Every conversation is a Mexican standoff with the Twitter addict as they try to bait you into exposing your Silo against their Silo. Its infuriating to deal with this type of addict because the rest of society is just trying to coexist while the Twitter addict is trying to root out imaginary threats…

Silo? Not familiar with the term. Googling I found "Silo Mentality" (="resists sharing information and resources with other people or departments within the organisation.") but I don't see exactly how that applies here

That comment made sense to me when I replaced “silo” with “filter bubble.”

… which reveals my silo.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps echochamber is likely what they meant?

I meant silo. Its not an echo chamber that they can disconnect from its a purposefully built online collection of thoughts and principles that they guard and collect to the point that its the driving force of their life.

People do that without the help of social media.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#119

The funny thing about Twitter users is how in real life you can tell who is addicted to Twitter from the way they talk. Every conversation is a Mexican standoff with the Twitter addict as they try to bait you into exposing your Silo against their Silo. Its infuriating to deal with this type of addict because the rest of society is just trying to coexist while the Twitter addict is trying to root out imaginary threats…

I see this opinion commonly espoused on HN, yet I know a number of people who are heavy Twitter users and not a single one acts like this.

Most of them aren’t even engaged in politics at all. They mostly just care about sports and celebrity culture. They’re some of the most “normal” people I know.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

Back in the wii home brew days, I used to hang around in their irc channels. Those channels were a main way for people to get help with what we would now call "jailbreaking" their wii. Sure some sites and forums existed with instructions, but if you ran into a weird edge case or just misunderstood what some kid wrote on a forum you'd be stuck till you found how to get on irc and asked in those channels. During the peak of that scene's activity, once you get in there you would have top notch support from several volunteers handholding you though every step of the way. The actual people who wrote the tools you were having problems with would help you out. Sometimes they'd give you a debug version comoiled just for you. Often, your bug would get fixed and a new point release made while you wait. The people writing guides would camp out in there and take note of the most common questions their guides cause and go fix them to head off problems early.

To me, forums felt like a place information went to die. Your answer would be on page 5 of a 30 page rambling thread but you wouldn't ever know because you wouldn't read that far. Read page one and maybe two, then jump to the end to see if it's solved and instead they are on another topic entirely.

IRC meanwhile was always 100% relevant and timely.

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