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Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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rjmunro wrote: post #86
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> modern day labour leaves deep mental scars in most women while being one of the most important thing in their life. > Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. It's just the most comfortable position for the _doctor_. You are looking at it from the eyes of the Health System that you know. I lived in countries were elective C-sections are a thing and the father is j…

Here in Oxford, UK, both the above are available in the same hospital - we could choose what we wanted. Is that not normal elsewhere?

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Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Post by gwbas1c »

For my first child, the suction cup came out. When they went to put it on my daughter's head, the (very experienced) nurse took one look at me and told me to sit down. It was a good thing, or I would have fainted!

But jokes aside, we had our third child in December 2020, when Covid was in full swing. The room next to ours was set up with negative pressure machines in case the mother was Covid positive. They looked almost as scary as this contraption.

Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Post by anotherhue »

croo wrote: post #39

Everybody is joking half sarcastically here but childbirth as a process in hospitals do have serious problems and modern day labour leaves deep mental scars in most women while being one of the most important thing in their life. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction however laughable the idea is. Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. It's just the mos…

We found the excessive amount of poorly designed sensors and monitors also forced her to be on her back. And significantly limited movement

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Post by lotsofpulp »

NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #60
croo wrote: post #39

Everybody is joking half sarcastically here but childbirth as a process in hospitals do have serious problems and modern day labour leaves deep mental scars in most women while being one of the most important thing in their life. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction however laughable the idea is. Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. It's just the mos…

Doctors' discomfort is also why they are so eager to slice women open like a fish, because baby needs to come on their schedule or they'll be late for tee time.

In the US, both east and west coast, my wife was never told anything like this. In both scenarios, the OBGYN doctor group had a rotation of doctors on call. You likely will not get your specific doctor, but my wife was seen by every doctor in the OBGYN group over the course of the pregnancy.

Lots of resources were provided for vaginal childbirth, and the hospital had dedicated birthing suites with hot tubs and yoga balls and all sorts of equipment you could use. There was zero pressure once admitted too to take medication.

However, the fetal heartbeat monitor or whatever they strap to the mom is annoying as hell because it slips off constantly since it is positioned on a rounded belly and a nurse constantly having to come in to adjust it because I presume the hospital is covering its ass from liability.

Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Post by bongoman37 »

VeninVidiaVicii wrote: post #90
drekipus wrote: post #53

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Thanks for sharing this. It's so crucial to know that we have actually lost this information and we're getting worse. > Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. My wife and I were shocked when we had our first. We were recommended a "natural birth" course that taught us this, and everyone gave us crap about being "woo-woo" and "denying science". Everyone. We also ha…

Thanks for sharing. This lines up so well with my experience as a translator in the ER — doctors are constantly catastrophizing and make it seem like everyone is going to die all the time and seemingly massively overtreat/overtest most patients. It really turned me off and decided not to go to medical school. Maybe it’s their version of upselling.

I think it is also about seeing the most difficult cases and having them stick in your memory as a med student. I have friends who practice medicine and they show the same behavior even when there is no monetary incentive at any stage for them. They do this even for their own parents and kids.

Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Post by lotsofpulp »

croo wrote: post #39

Everybody is joking half sarcastically here but childbirth as a process in hospitals do have serious problems and modern day labour leaves deep mental scars in most women while being one of the most important thing in their life. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction however laughable the idea is. Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. It's just the mos…

>Giving birth is similar to the act of vomiting in the sense that you don't have to do anything, it happens to you when the circumstances call for it.

Is it? I imagine the mortality/morbidity rate for women before modern medical interventions during childbirth was much higher.

My wife had to have her amniotic sac manually broken by the doctor after 12 hours of labor to resume her dilation.

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Post by ralphc »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #84
drekipus wrote: post #53

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Thanks for sharing this. It's so crucial to know that we have actually lost this information and we're getting worse. > Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. My wife and I were shocked when we had our first. We were recommended a "natural birth" course that taught us this, and everyone gave us crap about being "woo-woo" and "denying science". Everyone. We also ha…

The term "run interference" is so much more accurate than I think folks who've never done this realize. My wife submitted a birth plan that explicitly stated no drugs except in the case of emergency. After the fourth time one of the floor nurses asked my wife if she was ready for her epidural I ended up gently insisting she not step foot in our room again. On three occasions I physically barred entry to the room to a…

I applaud all that with the possible exception of the routine blood draws. Not for childbirth but both my wife and I have been in the hospital and appreciated the monitoring. Things can go south quickly on many medical issues, wouldn't a timely blood test catch things early?

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Post by woleium »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #105
drekipus wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for sharing this. It's so crucial to know that we have actually lost this information and we're getting worse. > Do you know what is the most uncomfortable position for labour is? Yeah, layin on your back. My wife and I were shocked when we had our first. We were recommended a "natural birth" course that taught us this, and everyone gave us crap about being "woo-woo" and "denying science". Everyone. We also ha…

Does anyone know how the phrase "denying science" crept into people’s vocabulary? I find it incredibly creepy since it sort of treats science as a religion, and usually people who say it seem to know basically nothing about actual science. If I think back before about 10 years ago I don’t think I had ever heard it before. In the past, non-technically minded people didn’t really cite “science” as a concrete reason to…

"science denier" sounds like it's language the flat earth folk et al use, coined (I'd imagine) to speak to them in their language, or by themselves as a positive trait?

Re: Apparatus for facilitating the birth of a child by centrifugal force (1963)

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Post by omniglottal »

twodave wrote: post #109
rjmunro wrote: post #86

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Here in Oxford, UK, both the above are available in the same hospital - we could choose what we wanted. Is that not normal elsewhere?

This is available in the US, but you make the choice based on the facility, typically. You can have the more medicalized experience at a hospital, or you can do home birth and hire a doula to assist, or you can go to a birthing center, which is sort of an in-between but more intimate atmosphere than a hospital. Usually the birthing center will be close enough to a real hospital to intervene if something goes wrong du…

Which of these options does medical insurance cover?
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