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So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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edejong wrote: post #64
judge2020 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a Discord guild is a poor man's IRC server.. that natively supports emojis, stickers, embeds, non-ip-leaking voice chat, screenshare with audio, rich permissions, avatars, attachments oh, and chat history. Because everyone loves needing an irc bouncer to be able to assimilate the context of the active conversation when they log in.

It’s it interesting how many meaningful conversations we’ve all had on IRC, lacking all those essential features you mention?

IRC is dead in any meaningful way, though. It's a decent technology that's lost to services with all those essential features. We also used to have great conversations while riding bikes with our friends when we were kids. Does that mean employers would be served to hold all of their meetings on bikes?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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numpad0 wrote: post #65
kemayo wrote: post #6

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. Discord's fine for what it is, but it's also a fundamentally different thing than social media or forums or a support-site. Projects that try to funnel everything onto Discord are (a) losing anyone who thinks joining an 800 person chatroom doesn't sound fun,…

Glad I wasn't the only one uncomfortable with Discord, especially in the vicinity of that point (a). To me, Discord feels tainted with weird masculism or toxic kind of gamerism that isn't my kind.

How does a chat platform have any sort of nonsense like that? You're projecting or joining shit servers. It's a technology. It's neutral.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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callroomlamp wrote: post #31
kromem wrote: post #12

Lemmy has been surprisingly good as a Reddit replacement given the relative user counts. With 3rd party apps like Sync already migrated, you'd almost not even know you weren't just on Reddit.

Lemmy experience is quite satisfying. Took a moment to get used to the fediverse especially with multiple duplicate communities. Yet find myself doomscrolling much less and being more satisfied than Reddit. Still a small community though…

I cannot understand why anyone would want to deal with fediverse anything. I don't want thirty places with five to twenty people that post the same few things. I want one with hundreds or thousands or more. If I want a cozy social area I'd just as soon start a group text chat. It's just the worst of every experience.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by vGPU »

I agree with the writer. When Apollo got shut down, my usage of Reddit died with it. The occasional skim on BuildaPCsales aside, it’s utility has rapidly approached zero for me, and the old subs that I used to browse have taken a noticeable dive in quality to the point where it’s not worth my time to read them.

The same with twitter. I tried twitter for 2-3 months. I found the quality of almost the entire user base to approach quality reminiscent of Markov chains. I amassed a handful of followers. 95% of whom were bots. With the change to X, I think it’s about time to wrap it up.

Funnily enough, the en-shitification of both has brought me back to my original love: reading. I’ve finally started working my way through the backlog that’s been building for several years now, and my life has been immensely improved over the results that would have been gained over spending that time browsing Reddit.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by hypnoosi »

I think the problem with online forums such as Reddit or Lemmy is still just the plain old content filteration. The first thing, when opening a Lemmy server, I see is a HC political memes about free-speech... aka. yet another dopamine well. We have pretty good a LLMs, it shouldn't be hard to categorise these posts and apply some filters. I would smash the button "filter out non-nuanced political posts" so hard...

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by xigoi »

jakecopp wrote: post #70

> I have a Mastodon account, but I don't love it, for the same reasons I didn't like Twitter. In addition, I think that way of consuming content is generally like watching mainstream TV or listening to radio with ads. You're letting a bunch of people who aren't really that important to you, or qualified to do the job, be the content curators for you. Isn't that the opposite of Mastodon? The _default_ Mastodon home fe…

The people you follow are the mentioned content curators.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Post by FullMetalBitch »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #51
raincole wrote: post #35

I don't know why people just can't use plain old forums. I've got a lot help from KVR (a forum for music making) since I started learning DAW. It works fine. If authentication is a problem then just let users login with their discord/twitter/reddit accounts? Is it the lacking of "one-click setup" forum services?

They did, Discourse is basically just a plain old forum -- with a somewhat newer coat of paint. > Is it the lacking of "one-click setup" forum services? I'm a bit biased (since I run a tiny managed service provider) -- would you create a forum if it had one click setup? Services like Discourse and NodeBB do offer this kind of service, so it seems like the option is there.

I have been in forums my whole life and discord is far from them, discord is just a chat akin to irc. Forums and IRC worked together very well, when I was moderating a huge gaming community we had several IRC channels for those who wanted live participation.

It's impossible to follow a discussion in discord because when you arrive it may be over and they are talking about something else, that doesn't happen in a forum you can just post and add your take. And managing knowledge is easier in a forum, I can still find my 15 year old replies, or access all the news I created back when I was a mod.

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