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Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I almost did the same thing in the US after graduating college. The signing bonus for nuclear power school was intriguingly large to me, and the job would have meant a steady source of income which I didn't have many prospects for at the time. Thank god I did not do that.
That's what I was trying for as well, via Annapolis. I like to say that the reason I got third was during the interview process, I went all goofy and could not remember the element Uranium. I just couldn't do it. They were trying to get it out of me with taunting questions "is it carbon? is it plutonium?" "No, but relevant isotopes are 235 and 239". They did acknowledge that I wasn't trying to BS my way through as I…
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Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what I was trying for as well, via Annapolis. I like to say that the reason I got third was during the interview process, I went all goofy and could not remember the element Uranium. I just couldn't do it. They were trying to get it out of me with taunting questions "is it carbon? is it plutonium?" "No, but relevant isotopes are 235 and 239". They did acknowledge that I wasn't trying to BS my way through as I…
What did you end up selecting
i went to college for 3 semesters before dropping out because i couldn't afford it, and i didn't think going into debt with student loans was going to work. i took a part time job during the 2nd semester, and went full time hours during the summer. tried to schedule classes around work for the 3rd semester, but that didn't work well either. so i just decided to stop throwing money at school, and self-taught with a lot of OJT from some very cool engineers that seemed to enjoy some young kid appreciating their experience and knowledge.
tl;dr i got lucky
Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#84>TCPO ‘Tug’ Wilson in the weapons room (AKA ‘bomb shop’). Crew members often hug the cruise missiles to stay cool while they sleep. Is it that hot in the submarine that you have to sleep naked and hug torpedoes to stay cool while you sleep? Is there no form of climate control? On US submarines it must be much cooler as everyone is wearing thick overalls[1] and even winter clothing in the torpedo bay. [1] https://yout…
Navy coveralls are pretty thin. Submariners (except especially hot watchstanders like engineroom upper level) wear non-uniform sweaters and survival jackets because of how cold it can get due to heat loss to deep cold water. When submarines are in warm water, it’s not nearly as bad.
There is climate control and small heaters, but a submarine is not going to be designed with massive heaters in the HVAC system because it’s a waste of power, space, and a fire hazard. It’s safer and more efficient for people to wear jackets.
Under some conditions, ventilation needs to be secured. There are quite a lot of sources of water in the boat, and humidity and temperature can rise quickly when the fans go off. I remember it being annoyingly uncomfortable to sleep in port and at sea with the fans off.
The green coveralls worn by the guy going into the tube are heavier fabric and only worn when doing heavy cleaning, busting barnacles, painting, etc.
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"Why be EXTRA courteous to women? Already reveals you think of them as different." Because that's the ways boys were taught by BOTH schools and their parents when I was a kid not only from our youngest age but also it was reinforced throughout highschool until we left. This was sacrosanct value of good behavior in our society until recently. It's a damn shame that you and others like you are not old enough to have a…
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Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where does he say that?
Ironically, such malicious interpretations of casual remarks are probably the sort of thing hilbert42 is worried about. Walking defensively on eggshells in the office is one thing, at least at the end of the day you can go home and breath easy, but sealed in a metal tube under the ocean, where you have to guard what you say at all times even in your sleep? No thanks, not for me.
Right. I was careful but it was also a friendly office,
Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where does he say that?
Ironically, such malicious interpretations of casual remarks are probably the sort of thing hilbert42 is worried about. Walking defensively on eggshells in the office is one thing, at least at the end of the day you can go home and breath easy, but sealed in a metal tube under the ocean, where you have to guard what you say at all times even in your sleep? No thanks, not for me.
It seems to be indicated in the subtext of your wording, even in this comment you stated "eggshells"/"breathe easy"; if your natural behavior does not align with your workplace policy wrt not devaluing someone of the opposite sex, then yes you should seek some behavior modification.
Edit; to address the original comment
>Similarly, I wouldn't expect my employer to allow me to work for eight hours per day under such risky conditions.
Is the implication "such risky conditions" = working with e.g. women?
Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#88there are things that happen in one's life that dramatically impact the rest of one's life from that point forward. when i was in school looking at college, i very nearly became a submariner. as it happens, i was third in the list, but they only took the top two. at the time, it was devastatingly disappointing. these oh so many years later with hindsight and all that, i'm no longer disappointed. i can't see how the d…
I almost did the same thing in the US after graduating college. The signing bonus for nuclear power school was intriguingly large to me, and the job would have meant a steady source of income which I didn't have many prospects for at the time. Thank god I did not do that.
Me, too, the bonus must be just enough for them to fill the ranks. They must send that brochure to every graduating electrical engineer. One of my uncles did that in the 1970-80s and ended up working at a nuclear power plant for the rest of his civilian career. It's a living, though the number/location of civilian jobs in the USA probably is not great.
Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I almost did the same thing in the US after graduating college. The signing bonus for nuclear power school was intriguingly large to me, and the job would have meant a steady source of income which I didn't have many prospects for at the time. Thank god I did not do that.
Me, too, the bonus must be just enough for them to fill the ranks. They must send that brochure to every graduating electrical engineer. One of my uncles did that in the 1970-80s and ended up working at a nuclear power plant for the rest of his civilian career. It's a living, though the number/location of civilian jobs in the USA probably is not great.
That was what I was being sold. Do 20 years in the service, then retire with a pension at the age of 38. Do another 20 years in a civilian role, then retire with a second pension before turning 60. I didn't buy it.
Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Why be EXTRA courteous to women? Already reveals you think of them as different." Because that's the ways boys were taught by BOTH schools and their parents when I was a kid not only from our youngest age but also it was reinforced throughout highschool until we left. This was sacrosanct value of good behavior in our society until recently. It's a damn shame that you and others like you are not old enough to have a…
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"There are tens, hundreds of thousands of others like you on the internet"
I've never mentioned this matter on the internet previously. And I do treat women equally both as colleagues at work and elsewhere and have always done so. The difference comes when someone is aggressive towards me. With a male I'll stand ground and argue back (but not physically), with a female I'll walk away. It's the prudent thing to do.