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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Researchers have spent several years try to even create a GAN that can fit well a distribution made of aligned faces (resulted into StyleGAN1/2); with a simple unet with e-objective and cosine schedule you can fit much complex distributions, still using one loss: L1/L2. Reading your comments make me feel like that you believe that just every researchers (even extremely smart dude like Karras) just switch to diffusion…

There are so many holes in this, but to pick just one: > for example your buggy BigGAN implementation The bug was that the batchnorm gamma was initialized to zero instead of one, so all the model params were being multiplied by zero instead of one. Literally any model that uses batchnorm is susceptible to this bug, and it certainly has nothing to do with GANs. I think it’s too easy to spout dogma, and calling gwern d…

It has to do with GANs as the added complexity makes the model more difficult to debug, the other day a friend of mine had a problem with the normalization layers of his diffusion model, it was fixed almost immediately, if something goes wrong you have less to worry about.

Also no I don't take "he is gwern" as an argument ahah

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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It's natural (normal) to think child point is disgusting. But its not hard to find many other sexual acts that at least some people, if not most people, find disgusting. So I'm not sure disgust is a useful criteria here. Most of what makes pedophilia so disgusting is the fact that a child is involved. Remove the child from the equation and it's more in line with other sex preferences. People can't really control thei…

> You mention children being off limits. In other societies homosexuality is still criminal. Even where it is legal many consider it "off limits" or "disgusting". Laws, and emotions, in this space are not always logical. In fact in a lot of those countries where fully consensual homosexuality is highly illegal, marrying (with all its implications) what we would consider a child is legal and "normal" and so is forced/…

Certainly yes, different cultures have different norms.

As a complete aside, forced marriages are not the same as arranged marriages. In many cultures arranged marriages (which seem completely bonkers to someone grown up in a western mindset) are both common, work well, and often good.

Clearly neither arranged marriages, nor "choice marriages", are guaranteed. The divorce rate in the west bears this out. Both work well, both work badly.

Again arranged is not the same as forced - clearly forced marriages are not something I consider a good thing.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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We're basically there right now betweem Deepnude[1] and Photoshop. [1] (NSFW, seriously.) https://deepnude.cc/

> The most powerful image deepfake AI ever created. See any girl clothless with the click of a button. This is just disgusting. I thought it would just be a uncensored generative AI but certainly wasn't expecting peeping-tom as a service. And advertise it so blatantly as being able to virtually strip any girl you have pictures of just makes me sick.

I agree it’s gross, but I’m not sure how to articulate it. It’s making real something people have done in their minds-that is imagine people with no clothes on. These pictures aren’t the actual subject naked. There’s nothing being discovered or disclosed. It’s a pure fiction. But it still bothers me.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Looking at the poses, it feels optimized for generating porn, but one example someone showed had a child's face (good god please don't let your "AI" system generate child anything if you want to sell it for porn purposes), and another user noted that their attempt error'd out because it "detected nudity", even though other users get given a nude model by default.

I don't know if the thing in the crotch is a penis or a scrotum, but it is definitely NSFW: https://images.generated.photos/0wV1dBnZ15hGneEfqfZT7SdEIill... My prompt was simply "Standing in front of a rocket.".

Hah. I've been playing with StableDiffusion locally and have gotten a few abominations like this myself.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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I get that most of these are hilarious (this is my favorite comment on HN in some time, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37239909 ). But still, I find this incredibly frightening. These are only going to get better. Does anyone doubt that in a couple years time (if that) we'll be able to put the image of any known public person into whatever generated photo we want, which would be indistinguishable from reality?…

> My only hope is that this extreme enshittification of online images will make people completely lose trust in anything they see online, to the point where we actually start spending time outside again.

Well in a weird way it will provide cover. You could post nudes of yourself online and just explain it away as bad actors using AI.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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> The most powerful image deepfake AI ever created. See any girl clothless with the click of a button. This is just disgusting. I thought it would just be a uncensored generative AI but certainly wasn't expecting peeping-tom as a service. And advertise it so blatantly as being able to virtually strip any girl you have pictures of just makes me sick.

I agree it’s gross, but I’m not sure how to articulate it. It’s making real something people have done in their minds-that is imagine people with no clothes on. These pictures aren’t the actual subject naked. There’s nothing being discovered or disclosed. It’s a pure fiction. But it still bothers me.

It is fiction yes, but if it is lifelike enough does the difference matter? Even without the ick factor of making porn of someone without their consent, it would be so easy to destroy someone's career or relationship by making these deepfakes and then spreading them around. Especially once the tech gets more life-like and loses the current AI gen tells.

And the same would apply to doing this the old fashioned way in Photoshop, however you have to admit that taking it from "need special software and experience in using that software" to "just upload their image to a website and get back their AI generated nudes" is a huge change in how accessible this is.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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I always thought peak of popular culture had a bit of a negative effect on the body image of the rest. Now we’re going to let ai define the ideals… this might be slippery.

"Now"? I doubt everyone is going to want to have six mangled fingers on one hand and a claw on the other.

or a penis coming out of their vagina

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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> The most powerful image deepfake AI ever created. See any girl clothless with the click of a button. This is just disgusting. I thought it would just be a uncensored generative AI but certainly wasn't expecting peeping-tom as a service. And advertise it so blatantly as being able to virtually strip any girl you have pictures of just makes me sick.

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If by virtue signal you mean call out creeps and perverts then yes. The world would be a much better place if people did that more often instead of just leaving them be to hurt women and teenage girls. Maybe then they would at least not act on it in public.
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