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Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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I think a nuclear deterrence against insane countries like e.g. Russia is of critical importance. I'm am also concerned about the quality of the work on UK's four nuclear subs. 2012: "British submariner tried to pass secrets to Russia" https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-submarine-... 2017: "Nuclear submarine sex and drugs scandal: Nine Trident crew expelled from Navy amid 'cocaine' and affairs allegati…

I worry that MAD requires the other actors to have accurate information, and act rationally.

When an “insane” person makes the call I fear the entire system of deterrence falls apart…

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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>TCPO ‘Tug’ Wilson in the weapons room (AKA ‘bomb shop’). Crew members often hug the cruise missiles to stay cool while they sleep. Is it that hot in the submarine that you have to sleep naked and hug torpedoes to stay cool while you sleep? Is there no form of climate control? On US submarines it must be much cooler as everyone is wearing thick overalls[1] and even winter clothing in the torpedo bay. [1] https://yout…

Subs are weird, you’re either sweating hot or freezing cold, within the span of a couple of feet.

Human comfort was def an afterthought

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the Smarter Every Day video, they're literally under a polar ice cap. I would think that location plays a big role.

I guess you mean 3D location. Now I’m wondering how fast the temperature change during dive/rise.

Not noticeable

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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The physical nature of constantly maneuvering around other people. I don’t know if I could get used to that.

Had a job like this once, didn't last lol. If you grew up in a big family or with friends that are always around you would do fine I think. It is not for anyone that has any level of privacy expectations.

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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post #13

I think a nuclear deterrence against insane countries like e.g. Russia is of critical importance. I'm am also concerned about the quality of the work on UK's four nuclear subs. 2012: "British submariner tried to pass secrets to Russia" https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-submarine-... 2017: "Nuclear submarine sex and drugs scandal: Nine Trident crew expelled from Navy amid 'cocaine' and affairs allegati…

I worry that MAD requires the other actors to have accurate information, and act rationally. When an “insane” person makes the call I fear the entire system of deterrence falls apart…

I don't think Putin is insane. If he were we'd all be dead by now.

Also: Suicidal people don't go to lengths to murder former threats to make a point, like he did today with the Wagner Group leadership.

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worry that MAD requires the other actors to have accurate information, and act rationally. When an “insane” person makes the call I fear the entire system of deterrence falls apart…

I don't think Putin is insane. If he were we'd all be dead by now. Also: Suicidal people don't go to lengths to murder former threats to make a point, like he did today with the Wagner Group leadership.

> I don't think Putin is insane. If he were we'd all be dead by now.

How do you know the next leader of Russia will also be rational? Or the leaders of all other nuclear armed nations that may retaliate against Russia's "rational" actions?

> Also: Suicidal people don't go to lengths to murder former threats to make a point, like he did today with the Wagner Group leadership.

If your days are numbered the consequences don't apply. In that case why not seek vengeance? Killing rivals is basically a hobby for Putin.

Re: Life on board a British nuclear submarine (2012)

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I think a nuclear deterrence against insane countries like e.g. Russia is of critical importance. I'm am also concerned about the quality of the work on UK's four nuclear subs. 2012: "British submariner tried to pass secrets to Russia" https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-russia-submarine-... 2017: "Nuclear submarine sex and drugs scandal: Nine Trident crew expelled from Navy amid 'cocaine' and affairs allegati…

You didn't even get to the Astute class submarine that was run aground.

While not good isn't that kind of an accepted risk for submarines? We don't have complete maps of the ocean floor. Features shift. IDK the specific circumstances so maybe it was incompetence but the British submarine fleet isn't alone in running boats aground.
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