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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by LexiMax »

memefrog wrote: post #361
ohgodplsno wrote: post #243

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> Can you give us links to some examples?

Sure!

https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110507731403617388

These receipts foot with my own observations. Transphobia does tend to eventually get flagged, but often it only happens after the comments section has dropped off the front page, and all it takes is browsing with "showdead" to reveal things that range from obvious "groomer" and "mentally ill" dog-whistles to being downright scary.

In the meantime, anti-transphobic comments or people complaining about the lack of moderation of transphobic comments are usually downvoted or flagged, and all you have to do is look at the root comment of this thread for evidence of that.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #469

I have a currently broken installation of Asahi Linux on an M1 iMac. I am motivated to fix that and update! I don’t know what is going to happen in the future, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Asahi Linux becomes widely used. From my experience of turning a 7 year old MacBook and an 8year old MacBook Air into great Ubuntu Linux boxes, I think that old Apple hardware will be a common host to Linux. It feels great to get…

Fedora is supposed to be the new focus.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by memefrog »

LexiMax wrote: post #641
memefrog wrote: post #361

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> Can you give us links to some examples? Sure! https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110507731403617388 These receipts foot with my own observations. Transphobia does tend to eventually get flagged, but often it only happens after the comments section has dropped off the front page, and all it takes is browsing with "showdead" to reveal things that range from obvious "groomer" and "mentally ill" dog-whistles to b…

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Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by memefrog »

camgunz wrote: post #630
memefrog wrote: post #610

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Publishing someone's real name online isn't doxing when his real name is already publically available online. It just isn't personally identifiable information when it is already public. Is it doxing to say that "rms" means Richard Stallman? Grow up. He is one of many people online that sometimes uses a pseudonym, and pointing out that he contributes to the project as himself and also contributes while creepily prete…

> Publishing someone's real name online isn't doxing when his real name is already publically available online. You're being deliberately obtuse. It's the connecting (obviously) that's the issue. It's like saying, "publishing someone's address online isn't doxing when their address is already publicly available online." Yeah I only care if you say it's my address. > I don't "feel strongly" about it at all. > also con…

>I usually try to be cooler on HN than this, but this is super toxic.

I am responding in kind, based on the way you are talking to me. If you were polite, there would be no issue. Instead, you make nasty psychologising comments and then pretend that you're a victim when someone responds in kind.

>You're being deliberately obtuse. It's the connecting (obviously) that's the issue. It's like saying, "publishing someone's address online isn't doxing when their address is already publicly available online." Yeah I only care if you say it's my address.

Publishing someone's address online when it's already publicly known what their address is isn't doxing! Everyone knows that Marcan is a vtuber in his spare time, it's been public knowledge since about day 2 of him doing it.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by ribit »

fayalalebrun wrote: post #638
ribit wrote: post #637

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> the Metal/Vulkan/OpenGL situation is unfortunate and I don't understand Apple's motivation there. I don't think it's hard to understand. Apple wanted an easy to use API that could be extended and updated easily. Vulkan is an extremely complex API that foregoes all and any developer ergonomy to facilitate quick driver development on as many hardware targets as possible. Consequently, Vulkan's design choices are driv…

Indeed Apple has been very active in shaping WebGPU, and that is why we can't use a bytecode representation for shaders. Instead, we have to repeat OpenGL's mistakes and store shaders as strings. WebGPU specifically has to be the lowest common denominator among the APIs it supports. And there are several features very useful in GPGPU's which are supported in Vulkan and CUDA, but cannot be included in WebGPU due to th…

I am sure that bytecode representation of shaders will come in a future revision. It’s not a first priority. SPIR-V is a poor choice for portable shaders for reasons outlined by the WebGPU group on multiple occasions. And WebGPU shading language finally goes away with some poor legacy design choices that are still stuck in GLSL and HLSL (such as shader bindings via global variables).

Regarding floating point atomics, I think you got it confused? Metal fully supports floating atomics on all recent devices, while in Vulkan it’s an optional extension. According to gpuinfo database only 30% of implementations support float atomics, and only 10% support more advanced operations like min/max. If you are looking for cross-platform float atomics support, Apple is the least of your worries (what they suck at are 64-bit int atomics though).

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by LexiMax »

memefrog wrote: post #643
LexiMax wrote: post #641

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> Can you give us links to some examples? Sure! https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110507731403617388 These receipts foot with my own observations. Transphobia does tend to eventually get flagged, but often it only happens after the comments section has dropped off the front page, and all it takes is browsing with "showdead" to reveal things that range from obvious "groomer" and "mentally ill" dog-whistles to b…

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> There is nothing wrong with any of the comments linked to by him in that thread, in my opinion.

Then there is no meeting of the minds that can be had.

> In my experience, this is always arrived at by some sort of absurd logic that goes "he denies that I am really a woman, and when you do that you make transgender people more like to kill themselves, therefore it is genocide" which is obviously nonsense.

What is happening right now in America is much, much worse than your strawman.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/this-is-what-transgender-...

If you are trying to draw a distinction between murder and using rhetoric to encourage stochastic terrorism, criminalizing existing in public, destroying social support systems, blocking access to health care, and in some cases forcible detransition, IMHO you're drawing a distinction without a difference. Both the dog-whistle _and_ the fig leaf fallback positions are horrendous injustices.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by foobiekr »

michh wrote: post #569
foobiekr wrote: post #245

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You might actually expand "Apple likes open standards when it is weak" to "companies likes open standards when they are weak." Generally speaking you get standards consortiums when there is a clear winner that is mopping up the space. Here's an example that's happening right now: Nvidia-NvLink-Infiniband. Nvidia owns the highspeed interconnect inside the chassis (HGX), the NICs (Mellanox), the inter-host interconnect…

> Right now Nvidia is just crushing it and there's zero chance anyone is going to catch up by introducing new Infiniband ASICs. I mean, Cornelis Networks is trying with the resurrected OmniPath. I hope they pull it off, but I'm not holding my breath. See: https://www.cornelisnetworks.com/products/

It's not going to work because they are too late.

HPC cluster builds are complex enough due to the presence of multiple networks (2x moderate-scale infiniband chassis and 2x ethernet chassis as a minimum) without introducing unknown vendors. At that point, if you're doing IB, why not just go Mellanox since you will almost certainly buy 200GE Connectix NICs and not the 100G NICs from these guys.

UEC will - like most standards - _eventually_ work. In the mean time, Nvidia pods are the obvious choice for anyone who really cares about performance, and other vendors (Cisco, Arista) if they don't.

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Post by mellosouls »

theptip wrote: post #640
mellosouls wrote: post #448

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Harmful by what standard? The moderation here is among the best on the web, what on earth are you talking about? Even if there are a tiny minority of toxic users, blocking access to all seems like the issue may not be with HN... Edit: ok I missed some previous discussions, eg https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36971867#37000629 for earlier similarly dubious generalisations and complaints providing context.

I think what you're missing is that a tiny minority of toxic users (as perceived from your viewpoint) can easily be perceived as a high concentration of harassment from those that are on the receiving end of abuse. This asymmetry of harassment is a dynamic worth thinking about more broadly; for example, if only one in a thousand men cat-calls women, you might not even have any male friends that have ever cat-called,…

I think what you're missing is that a tiny minority of toxic users (as perceived from your viewpoint) can easily be perceived as a high concentration of harassment from those that are on the receiving end of abuse

I didn't miss it - that was partly my point; the the quantity of abuse is possibly a matter of perception which will necessarily be very influenced by the psychology and experiences of the victim; I agree that without being in that position it's not possible to have the same viewpoint, and certainly not the same raw hurt and related experiences. But it doesn't follow from being on the receiving end that there is a clearer, more neutral view of the percentages.

Re: The first conformant M1 GPU driver

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Post by brokenmachine »

Unfrozen0688 wrote: post #606
brokenmachine wrote: post #459

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I have lots of USB-C devices and never had that problem. I'm careful with my stuff though.

Phones are very sensitive to it as they are in a pocket. Pocket lint -> pushed in USB cable -> after some years the connector wont connect anymore

Had lots of phones, always in my pocket, never had that problem.

Actually I just realized I put it in my pocket top-end down. So the usb socket is facing the sky. I suppose that might keep the usb socket further from pocket lint.

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Post by memefrog »

LexiMax wrote: post #646
memefrog wrote: post #643

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> There is nothing wrong with any of the comments linked to by him in that thread, in my opinion. Then there is no meeting of the minds that can be had. > In my experience, this is always arrived at by some sort of absurd logic that goes "he denies that I am really a woman, and when you do that you make transgender people more like to kill themselves, therefore it is genocide" which is obviously nonsense. What is hap…

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