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AI demand is already shrinking

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Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#21
I feel this might be more of a mild 'Trough of disillusionment' in the hype cycle than a real shrinking of demand. The other thing with ChatGPT specifically is that during really high usage times, its usability was impacted, so may have driven off some users. Also, ChatGPT has been RLHFed to death. Outside of regular corporate or homework like use cases, the output often feels bland and overspiced with adjectives. I hope other competitors can come up with models that are not so Politically Correct and more creative even if at the risk of offending a user or two.

Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#25
Yes, there is some over-hypeness, and it is winding down. But winding down graph doesn't equate to demand shrinking. It could also be a self-correction temporarily and go back to its true demand and resume climbing. For a product like chatGPT, it is normal to fit into this pattern. The number is merged from two sources: hype traffic and real demand traffic. I believe the real demand is going up.

Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#26
post #20

Strikes me as way, way premature to be making such strident conclusions at this stage. We have barely even got to the point where orgs can run these models in-house on their own data, which is where the strongest perceived benefits have been proposed. I’m something of a skeptic myself. I’m not convinced LLMs are as disruptive as the hype says. But they’re not nothing , and it’s still early.

> I’m something of a skeptic myself.

'AI skeptic' has changed meaning. It used to describe someone skeptical of the technical capability of AI or some aspect of it like LLMs, for example they were skeptical that it could do things like natural language or reasoning or whatever. Now it doesn't mean that anymore, and instead 'AI skeptic' describes someone who thinks that AI should be regulated, subjected to legal challenges, and should not be allowed to make medical or legal decisions, and that it would be bad if it takes jobs away from people.

Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#27

The real advantage of LLMs is not search -- that's just something that's easy to show people. No one really wants to talk to an LLM instead of using Google search. The real value is being general reasoning machines. Being able to accomplish basic tasks, retrieve information, etc. is the key value.

The problem is that LLMs aren’t very good at reasoning, needing constant guidance and double-checking.

Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#28
This article paints an overly negative picture. It's fairly obvious that AI is only going to improve from where it's at today, and the hyperbolic language about no one caring makes me less inclined to believe that the author is attempting to paint an honest picture. I derive immense value out of Gpt4 as an aid for coding, a search engine replacement that accepts open ended questions, a writing aid, etc. I know someone who has poor writing skills and used Gpt4 to improve their resume / cover letters.

He links to an article stating that ChatGpt use is down 10% in June as the source for the doom and gloom, but this is orthogonal to whether usage is low. The drop likely was due to school ending for the summer.

We're talking about an app that was the fastest growing app in human history prior to Threads launching. Decreased usage numbers implies that not everyone is deriving value from it, but there are a lot of people who are, it really depends on what your job is and your personality type probably plays a role too. There's also probably a backlash because people overstated what it could do, but what it can do is still extremely useful. I think stating AI is a fad ignores all of this, and again, ignores the massive increase in AI capabilities that we're going to see over the coming years.

Re: AI demand is already shrinking

#29
It's weird to me that some people just don't see the oncoming train. AI is here to stay. Use cases are still being worked out, but it's here to stay.

Reminds me of the Astound application around 1995-1996. It was a pretty major PowerPoint competitor and I used it a lot. For whatever reason, they only had a Windows 3.1 version. So I called them asking when the Windows 95 version was coming out. They told me they didn't think Windows 95 will be anything more than a fad and therefore they are sticking with what they have.

I remember us laughing in the office about how an entire company could be so clueless.

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