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Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by jarofgreen »

Why not go Open Source?

It's just that you repeatedly mention that your main aim is to have a service that will last for ever; but there's nothing different in your service (apart from your intentions) that will guarantee that. Basically, your asking people to trust you on that one.

But if it was Open Source, with good import/export features, then if it was threatened by closure people could just move their data to another service using the same software (techy ppl could even run their own server).

I'm sure there are already open source bookmarking services; why not just help one of those instead of reinventing the wheel?

Of course, the business model for making money from Open Source is completely different. But from your stated intentions, that's not your aim.

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by mitechie »

jarofgreen wrote: post #31

Why not go Open Source? It's just that you repeatedly mention that your main aim is to have a service that will last for ever; but there's nothing different in your service (apart from your intentions) that will guarantee that. Basically, your asking people to trust you on that one. But if it was Open Source, with good import/export features, then if it was threatened by closure people could just move their data to a…

https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by cdevroe »

rvrv wrote: post #28

Very simple system. It's so simple you dont even need to use any credentials on login page. Just click login and you ready to go :-)

rvrv: I've double-checked this claim and I haven't been able to replicate the issue. I would love any suggestions on how to replicate this as well as suggestions on how to button it up. Thanks for finding it!

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by cdevroe »

jarofgreen wrote: post #31

Why not go Open Source? It's just that you repeatedly mention that your main aim is to have a service that will last for ever; but there's nothing different in your service (apart from your intentions) that will guarantee that. Basically, your asking people to trust you on that one. But if it was Open Source, with good import/export features, then if it was threatened by closure people could just move their data to a…

jarofgreen: I've thought a lot about this. I'm a big proponent of open source. And I intend to giving a lot of thought to open sourcing Nilai sometime in the future - just so that (as you put it) "techie people" can run their own servers if they want.

However, I think running the service is where the value really is. If someone is techie enough to grab an open source project, install it on their own server, and keep it running - I have little doubt that they could build Nilai. In fact, they can probably build it better than I can.

That being said, I do hope that Nilai will turn a profit. I'm charging such a small cost that I obviously do not intend to get rich off of Nilai but I wouldn't mind it running in the black rather than in the red.

Perhaps you could give mittechie's Bookie a spin? https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie - I think it looks pretty good.

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by cdevroe »

toadi wrote: post #30

He mentions pinboard. the idea of pinboard is the same: no free users. So we have more trust in this service sticking around for the long haul. Also it's simple. Maybe he should make a small table first listing the differentiating facts between his service and Delicious and Pinboard. It's just not clear and I fear he will scratch his itch alone...

toadi: I understand your concern. And it is valid. I totally plan on scratching my own itch and I hope that my itches align with other's itches. But, I'm also excepting as many suggestions as anyone cares to give.

Maybe you could come back to Nilai in a few months, see where it is, and if it fits.

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

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Post by cdevroe »

recroad wrote: post #17
cdevroe wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

recroad I have a roadmap of sorts jotted down. I haven't used Pinboard or the new Delicious to know exactly how they will be different. One feature I'm really excited about is integration with Instapaper in a very seamless and meaningful way. The beta testers I've had using the site seem to like the idea. I hope to finish up that feature soon.

FWIW, I think something like instapaper, delicious/pinboard, evernote, and clipboard, should really be one service. Combine those four for me and you have my money.

I think Evernote has a built-in bookmarking and read later service. So perhaps you should give that a whirl?

Re: Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

#40

Post by rvrv »

cdevroe wrote: post #34
rvrv wrote: post #28

Very simple system. It's so simple you dont even need to use any credentials on login page. Just click login and you ready to go :-)

rvrv: I've double-checked this claim and I haven't been able to replicate the issue. I would love any suggestions on how to replicate this as well as suggestions on how to button it up. Thanks for finding it!

Hmm. Maybe it is intended behavior or i just do something wrong but my way to replicate this is open http://nilai.co/ and simply click login button without entering anything in login form fields. When i do that i click "Your Marks" and then Archive i i can see sth like this:

http://imgur.com/93L5J

Best regards.

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