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Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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And it seems he was innocent. https://www.cracked.com/article_34310_connecticut-put-a-prob...

I feel like there must be a better source for this information

Because you are offended by Cracked's font? They have a long reputation of good research.

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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And it seems he was innocent. https://www.cracked.com/article_34310_connecticut-put-a-prob...

I feel like there must be a better source for this information

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/Francis-Smith-lon...

They’re listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_prison_sentenc..., but I’m unable to find a Wikipedia page for them (Francis Clifford Smith).

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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98. In prison. I imagine there is some theme about how luck and genetics still play a much larger role in health than stuff like sleep, diet, and fitness that I comfort myself with. No idea who this guy is btw, but back to the basics. 98. In prison - pretty amazing.

"he has spent closer to 85 years in the justice system. He is very likely the longest-serving prisoner, ever, in the United States. .... He seems to believe he is still in prison, though he was paroled to the nursing home in 2020. In fact, he could technically leave — to go get lunch, or visit one of the nearby towns — but someone would have to request permission and sign him out, which no one appears to have ever do…

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Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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I feel like there must be a better source for this information

Because you are offended by Cracked's font? They have a long reputation of good research.

Literally just look at their homepage - it's entirely bottom-of-the barrel top 10 lists about celebrities.

I miss old Cracked.com when they had a consistent set of good writers but even in the good ol' days they were making comedy articles and not serious journalism.

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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98. In prison. I imagine there is some theme about how luck and genetics still play a much larger role in health than stuff like sleep, diet, and fitness that I comfort myself with. No idea who this guy is btw, but back to the basics. 98. In prison - pretty amazing.

Charlie Munger and Warren Buffet are also one of those outliers in terms of diet, exercising and work rate.

Granted they receive the best medical support money can buy, but they are on record saying how much they binge on fast food, and Munger in particular mentioned on several occasions how he never intentionally did any exercise (no cardio or weightlifting) since he was a teenager. They are both also crazy workaholics working a rigorous 9-5, very little holiday for the last 7 decades.

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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what it means is less important than the real questions it raises.

- if in the united states we refer to our prisons as 'correctional' facilities, what quantitative correction could require nearly a century of internment?

- if by any study it costs nearly 40,000 dollars to house a prisoner for one (1) year, was the night watchmans life truly worth 3.2 million dollars of Connecticut taxpayers money?

- what meaningful value was extracted from his slave labor? was it enough to offset even a fraction of the internment cost?

- Can the state identify how or if a nearly 100 year old man has been rehabilitated in their correctional facility? has the process improved?

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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98. In prison. I imagine there is some theme about how luck and genetics still play a much larger role in health than stuff like sleep, diet, and fitness that I comfort myself with. No idea who this guy is btw, but back to the basics. 98. In prison - pretty amazing.

The system is designed to “rehabilitate” you. That is, to make it so you’re dependent on the system to live. Most offenders, repeat, sending them back to jail. Some have argued because it’s easier than out on the streets trying to survive. In prison you have a bed, food, shelter (though not from others). On the outside, you had to provide that.

Shawshank redemption talked about this a bit when Brooks (the librarian and old man) was released to a halfway house. He monologues “On the inside, I was the man you would come to if you needed something brought in. I was somebody. On the outside, I’m an old ex-con. A nobody.”

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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98. In prison. I imagine there is some theme about how luck and genetics still play a much larger role in health than stuff like sleep, diet, and fitness that I comfort myself with. No idea who this guy is btw, but back to the basics. 98. In prison - pretty amazing.

Charlie Munger and Warren Buffet are also one of those outliers in terms of diet, exercising and work rate. Granted they receive the best medical support money can buy, but they are on record saying how much they binge on fast food, and Munger in particular mentioned on several occasions how he never intentionally did any exercise (no cardio or weightlifting) since he was a teenager. They are both also crazy workahol…

About the one burger a day I think from Buffet, I always wondered if it was something they said to be more relatable, or if it true.

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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98. In prison. I imagine there is some theme about how luck and genetics still play a much larger role in health than stuff like sleep, diet, and fitness that I comfort myself with. No idea who this guy is btw, but back to the basics. 98. In prison - pretty amazing.

"he has spent closer to 85 years in the justice system. He is very likely the longest-serving prisoner, ever, in the United States. .... He seems to believe he is still in prison, though he was paroled to the nursing home in 2020. In fact, he could technically leave — to go get lunch, or visit one of the nearby towns — but someone would have to request permission and sign him out, which no one appears to have ever do…

The Cracked article says he escaped in 1967, was recaptured and briefly paroled in 1975 for 10 months.

Re: Frank Smith was locked up for 8 decades. At 98, what would it mean to be free?

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I feel like there must be a better source for this information

Because you are offended by Cracked's font? They have a long reputation of good research.

I would be very interested in how you define them as having a "long reputation of good research", given that they don't do research so much as pointing to various links without checking their quality and make sure to specify may/could/potentially/... All over their long form articles specifically to not be making any claim since they don't research them enough.

I'm not blaming them at all for it by the way, they're a comedic publication not investigative, I'm just weirded out by your perception of them when they themselves go out of their way to not purport themselves as any kind of authoritative source.

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