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Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

Buying a Macbook Pro 16" M2 and a Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 at the same time from the same place.

And you clearly want to carry 3000+ EUR in your pocket than paying by card? Europe is safe, but I will definitely not walk around with that much cash on my person.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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The maximum limit for cash payments in Italy is 1000€, so 3k would still be a lot. Why would someone need to pay for 10k in cash? Where does that cash come from? 60% of the times, it's money laundering every time. edit: I suppose since I'm in EU and I'm only 30 I'm "used" to the 1k limit, while non-EU (or specifically USA) people might be grabbing their pitchforks.

Whenever I buy a car, tractor, cattle, pump repair, implements, out-buildings, solar system installation, fuel storage, etc... Because I pay cash and keep the bankers out of the transaction it costs me less and it costs the seller less. I negotiate this ahead of time. Most people in business would rather have cash in hand than wait on the bank and pay their fees.

Sorry to assume where you're from, but I'm guessing America (either North or South)?

In EU you could pay for all those things with a quick and free bank transfer for any amount, so you wouldn't even need to withdraw and travel with all that cash on you. There's no "bank fees", there's no "bankers" to keep out of the transaction, because they don't take any fee.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

Buying a Macbook Pro 16" M2 and a Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 at the same time from the same place.

Why do you need cash for that?

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Why do I get the feeling that you hope for this outcome, from this comment? And maybe you never visited the Netherlands? By the way, the boiling frog thing has been debunked many times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

> By the way, the boiling frog thing has been debunked many times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

It seems to work well for things other than frogs, like normalizing microtransactions and gambling in video games.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Nice to see that there's no limit where I live which is Norway. Hopefully, there are no plans to introduce one.

I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

Privacy is a human right.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Nice to see that there's no limit where I live which is Norway. Hopefully, there are no plans to introduce one.

That article does indicate limits in Norway when an entrepreneur is involved, though not when both parties are private individuals.

True. The rule is actually max 40k for goods purchased from a merchant. Services have no limit.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

Why should one have to explain themselves?

Because you don’t live in Galt’s Gulch.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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They can't control the black market in drugs, what makes them think controlling a black market in cash , which is a million times more desirable, will be any more successful? There's the small matter of millions of undocumented migrants entering Europe who will be trapped in this now-illegal-cash underclass, and these financial oppression laws just incentivise and create criminal networks to facilitate basic economy.…

There are for sure tradeoffs here, but in Germany for example they recently made paying in cash for real estate illegal because it was obvious that almost all those cash transactions involved crime money of some sort. Edit: As noted below cash here refers to paper money. The same law also prohibits real estate purchase with gold, silver, diamonds or crypto currencies.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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post #53

The maximum limit for cash payments in Italy is 1000€, so 3k would still be a lot. Why would someone need to pay for 10k in cash? Where does that cash come from? 60% of the times, it's money laundering every time. edit: I suppose since I'm in EU and I'm only 30 I'm "used" to the 1k limit, while non-EU (or specifically USA) people might be grabbing their pitchforks.

> Why would someone need to pay for 10k in cash? For their own personal reasons. Purchasing a business, a vehicle, a property or other real/tangible asset, hush money, avoiding a lawsuit, and so forth. > Where does that cash come from? It doesn't matter. Why do you care where people get their currency from? Do you have a rash of mint or bank robberies or something?

Note that in most of the EU you also have to provide ID to do a real estate transfer, for exactly the same money laundering reasons.
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