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Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Why would you never cash in stablecoins? They are used for payments

Do you consider sending them to another person cashing them in? I'm referring to bob's stablecoin -> bob's fiat -> alice's payment, and suggesting that their goal is bob's stablecoin -> alice's stablecoin, and avoiding the stablecoin->fiat (cashing in) phase entirely.

I mean, yeah. If the entire world transacted in stablecoins, it would be a much much better UX.

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Why do I get the feeling that you hope for this outcome, from this comment? And maybe you never visited the Netherlands? By the way, the boiling frog thing has been debunked many times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

you will see, next they will start dismantling roads and start putting in bicycle infrastructure, horrors!

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If an EMP truly destroys most of our electronic devices, money will be the least of your worries.

The world worked fine before electronics. Sure, the adjustment period would be harsh, but it’s silly to think civilization would end completely.

End completely, no. But the "civilized" way of exchanging cash for goods will be gone for quite a little bit. Long enough that we can figure out how to make more cash. Not that the existing one will be miraculously gone either.

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In Ireland, for example, it is possible (and popular) to receive state pensions in cash.

Point taken. Wouldn't that make elderly people an easier target for assaults?

If you have a criminal mindset, yes. Otherwise, let them be and be happy.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Very sad news. Digital faschism is coming. I always withdraw money and use cash to pay wherever possible. I used to do the opposite throughout mthe most of my life until I understood what's that all about and what are we coming to. Coincidentally or not I have switched soon after watching the Black Mirror TV show :-) (I wouldn't say it was the only and direct influence - I thought about this subject before and after watching it but it impressed me). Fun fact: the very Netherlands have recently filmed another nice TV show about this (Arcadia). I always viewed the Netherlands as arguably the best nation in the world (I am not Dutch myself), sad to see they are going this way.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Nice to see that there's no limit where I live which is Norway. Hopefully, there are no plans to introduce one.

I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

Freedom from government surveillance and potential overreach?

In reality, there’s hardly any 3,000 euros+ transaction where a business or individual will accept cash. That’s too much money to have on hand when a bank transfer is much more comfortable…still happens rarely though so I think this law is overreaching.

Disclosure: I’m not Dutch nor European so my opinion hardly matters here.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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post #128

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Why do I get the feeling that you hope for this outcome, from this comment? And maybe you never visited the Netherlands? By the way, the boiling frog thing has been debunked many times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog

> Why do I get the feeling that you hope for this outcome, from this comment?

I do not hope for it. But if it happens, may it serve as a warning and example to everyone else who has freedom and does not currently cherish it enough. I know that what happened to the truckers in Canada when they had their electronic assets frozen certainly woke up people in Canada to a degree.

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It's funny, because cash transactions are definitely more common among poorer people. Also, using (even more) imaginary money benefits banks, ultra wealthy, and governments not regular people. Even among the criminals laundering money, the influential and wealthy ones (i.e, the ones these laws should stop) will have little problem adapting. The influence these types of laws stop is that of regular citizens.

Nonsense - it stops criminals and tax evaders from doing the things that they do to undermine society.

I am 100% certain that you can evade taxes, and do crime without cash. Even movies have criminals do wire transfers. It is hard to have, say, negative interest rates though.

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In Canada, and I think the US we cannot cross the border with > 10k in cash (edit: more if you declare it as mentioned below). The law has been there for as long as I can remember, be I sure purchasing power of 10k has gone down by at least a factor of 4-10 over the life of the law. All regulation type laws need sunset clauses and all dollar amounts should be inflation linked. The government shouldn't be able to scam…

You can (of course) cross the border with more than $10k in cash. You have to declare it.

Which can be seized at the border unless you also bring all the necessary paperwork to demonstrate provenance.

This is one of those things that sounds simple, but in practice, YMMV.

Re: Cash payments above €3000 to be outlawed in Netherlands

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Nice to see that there's no limit where I live which is Norway. Hopefully, there are no plans to introduce one.

I am confused by your post. What are some good reasons to allow cash payments above 3000 EUR?

What are some good reasons not to allow it?
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