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‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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Just genuinely don't see the point in this debate anymore, like some companies will want you to show up, some will be fine with you working from home.

If your company is asking you to show up, time to just get another job if that's important to you.

Thankfully it's an easy solve because the people who like showing up are tired of video calls anyway.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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Just genuinely don't see the point in this debate anymore, like some companies will want you to show up, some will be fine with you working from home. If your company is asking you to show up, time to just get another job if that's important to you. Thankfully it's an easy solve because the people who like showing up are tired of video calls anyway.

Workers have leverage and are using it. You don’t have to understand it for workers to work towards having more agency over their working arrangements.

The NLRB is likely about to reinstate the Joy Silk doctrine, which will make it even easier to organize. Workers who want flexible work arrangements as a right should lean into that. Public support for unions exceeds 70%, the highest amount in almost 60 years.

So strange to see people with the belief system “you just have to do what your employer dictates or go elsewhere.” Perhaps in the “before times”, but with structural demographics and a decent executive branch admin in charge currently, this is simply not the case.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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It feels like RTO is quickly evaporating the leverage these big companies temporarily created with their mass layoffs. I think the plan was to create a poor labor market so they could demand RTO. Well, it looks like the majority of the industry is calling their bluff and refusing to go back to the office regardless of the threat of unemployment. The tech job market seems to be rejuvenating so I think if people couldn't get RTO to work in this brief window of leverage, that it's an idea that's dead forever.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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Just genuinely don't see the point in this debate anymore, like some companies will want you to show up, some will be fine with you working from home. If your company is asking you to show up, time to just get another job if that's important to you. Thankfully it's an easy solve because the people who like showing up are tired of video calls anyway.

> because the people who like showing up are tired of video calls anyway.

Even if you like showing up, you will likely still have video calls. Most large companies have multiple office sites and you still need to collaborate with teams/employees in different locations.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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It's kind of funny to me that for a long time the people in cities looked down on rural people and life and touted the benefits of living in close proximity. When COVID hit, we saw a mass exodus from the cities and now people don't want to return.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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Just genuinely don't see the point in this debate anymore, like some companies will want you to show up, some will be fine with you working from home. If your company is asking you to show up, time to just get another job if that's important to you. Thankfully it's an easy solve because the people who like showing up are tired of video calls anyway.

Workers have leverage and are using it. You don’t have to understand it for workers to work towards having more agency over their working arrangements. The NLRB is likely about to reinstate the Joy Silk doctrine, which will make it even easier to organize. Workers who want flexible work arrangements as a right should lean into that. Public support for unions exceeds 70%, the highest amount in almost 60 years. So stra…

>> “you just have to do what your employer dictates or go elsewhere.”

Isn't that pretty much exactly the case? No one in software is going to go to the trouble of unionizing.

Re: ‘It’s Not My Responsibility’ to Save the Office Economy

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It's kind of funny to me that for a long time the people in cities looked down on rural people and life and touted the benefits of living in close proximity. When COVID hit, we saw a mass exodus from the cities and now people don't want to return.

People who live in cities are not a uniform hive mind. Some people left but the vast majority stayed.
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